Uncle Mike's gone to China, but...

[bubba23]

Originally Posted by RoyJackson

Is that Freedom Armory in Glen Rock? Good bunch of guys there!

Agreed.

Beautiful facilities, and first rate service and selection.

[LorDiego01]

I wonder if the large amount of taxes, regulations, wealth relocation, minimum wage laws, and other government mandated loops to jump through are a bigger incentive for companies to send production over seas, rather than lower wages.

[TwistedCopper]

Originally Posted by jkp1187

Now, wait a minute -- I don't doubt the ability of the Chi-Coms to stir up trouble, but, well, there's no actual evidence that they were actively supplying these jerks, just that someone, somewhere along the line, purchased Chinese ammo. As far as I know, the insurgents also use whatever American equipment that they can get their hands on, too.

Are you supporting more restrictions on the international sale of small arms ammunition...?

No... nothing of the sort! I support buying American. That is all I am saying, and it has nothing to do with laws, agreements, arms, or anything related. I am just saying we, as Americans, should cast our "economic vote" by supporting companies that stay out of China and avoiding the ones that do whenever possible. Unfortunately it is not always possible to buy American, but given the choice I will - even if it costs a little extra.

We American consumers pump tons of money into China every year, and they get stronger from our spending. Eventually it's going to bite us in the ass... or worse.

[TwistedCopper]

Originally Posted by LorDiego01

I wonder if the large amount of taxes, regulations, wealth relocation, minimum wage laws, and other government mandated loops to jump through are a bigger incentive for companies to send production over seas, rather than lower wages.

Obviously the incentives are many, wages being a very small part of it... heck, you can hire illegals here

No matter what the incentives, they would be lessened greatly if their products were not selling.

In addition to buying American, we need to vote out the socialists that plague our government.

[KeithPA]

Originally Posted by TwistedCopper

Yes, but I am sure the workers who they hired back are all pretty appreciative right now.

While they may be using some foreign material, they are using Americans to make their product, unlike Uncle Mikey, who's workforce now probably includes children in China that are paid peanuts.

It just disturbs me that we as a country, have not supported businesses that stay here enough to show companies they will lose in the long run if they move. If we boycotted companies like this one enough then they would stay.

Your a bit off on the whole Blackhawk thing. ALMOST everything they make is still made in Vietnam. There are only a few products they make (and sell to the military) that are Berry Ammendment applicable. I browsed one of their catalogs not too long ago and only saw maybe 6-12 things that had the little flag logo saying it's berry ammendment compliant.

Yes they make some stuff in the US, but most isn't. I certainly won't give them much of a pat on the back for this one. They are required by law to have some stuff made here, they are only complying to the law and still having other stuff made in Vietnam.

ETA:
So while eating my cheerios i pulled out the catalog and counted. I was definately off. There were 52 products out of probably 1000. (330 pages roughly 3-5 things a page). Everything was in groups though. 1/3 of the items were holsters. 1/3 were flashlights. 1/3 were knives. The main items police and military would want.

[Skuggi]

Can't really blame uncle mikes honestly, with taxes, laws, and frivolous lawsuits, plus the insurance you need. It's damn hard to have an american company with american employees and make a profit

Edit: at least in manufacturing, Unless your selling a lot more units than a holster company can.

[TwistedCopper]

Originally Posted by DeltaII5

Your a bit off on the whole Blackhawk thing. ALMOST everything they make is still made in Vietnam. There are only a few products they make (and sell to the military) that are Berry Ammendment applicable. I browsed one of their catalogs not too long ago and only saw maybe 6-12 things that had the little flag logo saying it's berry ammendment compliant.

Yes they make some stuff in the US, but most isn't. I certainly won't give them much of a pat on the back for this one. They are required by law to have some stuff made here, they are only complying to the law and still having other stuff made in Vietnam.

ETA:
So while eating my cheerios i pulled out the catalog and counted. I was definately off. There were 52 products out of probably 1000. (330 pages roughly 3-5 things a page). Everything was in groups though. 1/3 of the items were holsters. 1/3 were flashlights. 1/3 were knives. The main items police and military would want.

Well I was referring to their continuance of the former Uncle Mike's products that are made in the factory they bought (as reported).

[normanvin]

saw the following on another site. has anyone heard anything about it.

A friend tells me that Bianchi leather got nailed by the feds for hiring 361 illegals. To add to the fun, it is also alleged that OSHA got them for an unsafe work place, too. I cannot find a confirmation of this story. Is it real or Memorex? My biggest problem us that I did not think Bianchi was big enough to have that many illegal employees.

[phillyd2]

Originally Posted by normanvin

saw the following on another site. has anyone heard anything about it.

A friend tells me that Bianchi leather got nailed by the feds for hiring 361 illegals. To add to the fun, it is also alleged that OSHA got them for an unsafe work place, too. I cannot find a confirmation of this story. Is it real or Memorex? My biggest problem us that I did not think Bianchi was big enough to have that many illegal employees.

You are thinking of Bianco, not Bianchi. See my link on page one. I met with the owner a few weeks afterwards since they owe us a ton of $$$. He is still in business and continues supplying his Mil contracts. He even still has his Benz.

[TonyF]

What does walmart sell that isn't made in China?

That was a rhetorical question.

Regardless, patronizing walmart, even if you "buy American", supports walmart which in turn fuels the Chinese economy.

And all we do is bitch and moan on message forums.