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Default .223 - What's your cost per round?

I'm currently loading .223/5.56mm with 55gr Hornady FMJ bullets at a cost of approximately $0.20 per round, or $4.00 per box of 20, compared to about $8/box of 20 for decent brass cased factory .223.

What do you guys have your .223 costs down to?
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Default Re: .223 - What's your cost per round?

Last I check (for plinking ammo) my cost of components was .17 a round including the cost of once fired brass. Since I expensed the brass at least once since then I should be around .12 a round.
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Very low. Last time I bought brass was a few years ago before the current frenzy. I bought a factory case of primed brass from Wideners (4350 cases). It was a lot to lay out but the cost per primed case was less than seven cents - maybe less than six, I forget. Add powder at about seven cents per 25 grain charge (bulk at $14/lb)) and a bullet (bulk buy before the frenzy) at about another seven cents (includes shipping). That was 21 cents a round for new brass and bullets. Depending on how you amortize that, the following rounds could be counted (I was given about 10K primers - free) as costing only the propellant and the bullet, about 14 cents each. The actual cost is more as I rarely shoot the 55s, opting for heavier match bullets.
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Default Re: .223 - What's your cost per round?

Just bought some Federal 55grain @ Wally World for $.39 a round. 100 count box for $39.95
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Just bought some Federal 55grain @ Wally World for $.39 a round. 100 count box for $39.95
Ouch. Sounds like a good reason to start reloading.
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We need to find out more about how to do it for 12 cents a round. I'd like to save a bit more. Forget the brass, where can I get the other components that cheaply?
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20 a round and alot of PITA work if trimming/chamfering/deburring that go round.
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20 a round and alot of PITA work if trimming/chamfering/deburring that go round.
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You can't anymore. I bought "bulk". Heads, once fired processed military brass, powder, and primers at 2007 prices.
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We need to find out more about how to do it for 12 cents a round. I'd like to save a bit more. Forget the brass, where can I get the other components that cheaply?
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Well, using pulled military projectiles is a start.

How about 5000 22CAL 55GR FMJBT M193 PROJECTILES $370.00 Pre-Paid USPS
http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|281|727

That brings bullet cost to less than SEVEN AND A HALF CENTS PER LOAD.
(Last year, I bought Hornady 55gr FMJBT w/c bulets, $70.k at a show= .07/rd)

Primer, .035

Powder, .048 per rd. That's $0.175 per rd. , not counting brass.

That is CCI primers at $35/k
Accurate Arms #2230 at $100 for an 8 lb jug,
and Widener's mil-spec bullets, as above.

Amortize your brass over 8 or ten loadings, or just do range pick-up until you have a thousand or so.

Not quite the "12 cents per rouond" target, but close.

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