Who controls the PSP?

[KeithPA]

Call the highest ranking PSP person you can get on the phone. Record them saying that they won't recognize non-res permits, and sue?

[God's Country]

Originally Posted by RoyJackson

So, exactly what are you talking about?

You highlighted it.

The reason for the thread is to dive into the actual cause of why the PSP decision to not honor out of state nonresident ccw permits.

[knight0334]

They need to be sued for breach of Constitutional authority. As I've said before in another thread: executive branch enforces the laws, legislative branch makes the laws, the judicial branch interprets the laws.

The PSP have no authority to interpret the law, only to uphold it word for word.

[God's Country]

Originally Posted by DeltaII5

Call the highest ranking PSP person you can get on the phone. Record them saying that they won't recognize non-res permits, and sue?

Not a law suit. Unless you’re rich enough. Lord knows I am not. The point is regardless of who's idea this is there must be logical ties back to an elected official. If the PSP are under jurisdiction of the governor then public pressure
should be, at least, enough to curtail the problem long enough until this matter can be rectified logically.

[God's Country]

Originally Posted by knight0334

They need to be sued for breach of Constitutional authority. As I've said before in another thread: executive branch enforces the laws, legislative branch makes the laws, the judicial branch interprets the laws.

The PSP have no authority to interpret the law, only to uphold it word for word.

I could be entirely wrong (and this is the point of this thread. To hash this out), but the PSP should IMO be capable of being reigned in by order of the governor.
Which to a degree we can control. No?

[knight0334]

Originally Posted by God's Country

I could be entirely wrong (and this is the point of this thread. To hash this out), but the PSP should IMO be capable of being reigned in by order of the governor.
Which to a degree we can control. No?

Yes, the Governor "controls" them.. But I cant remember the last time we've been in control of our Governor. Once elected, they do their own bidding - not ours like they are supposed to.

[God's Country]

Originally Posted by knight0334

Yes, the Governor "controls" them.. But I cant remember the last time we've been in control of our Governor. Once elected, they do their own bidding - not ours like they are supposed to.

Hey I'm as cynical as the next guy, but public figures are accountable if we make them. If Rendell is behind or ignoring this issue he'll only get away with it if we ignore it. If everyone were to write their reps to push Rendell to put a stop to it he will. This story is all over the net. Everyone is putting blame on the AG, and he has no say over the PSP. I have no control over the AG, but I do with our Gov.
I'm looking for people to speak out.

Edit: This crap is being done behind the scenes. That is why it's happening. It is our duty to bring such issues front and center. Our Reps don't even care unless we make it an issue.

[Steve in PA]

The govenor isn't going to "reign in" anyone.....he WANTS more gun control so he'll just sit by and watch the world go by.

[N3HCP]

Originally Posted by Steve in PA

The governor isn't going to "reign in" anyone.....he WANTS more gun control so he'll just sit by and watch the world go by.

You hit the nail on the head! He believes no one should be carrying a gun in his state (besides his State Police body guards, of course). If pressed on the issue, he will proudly report that he is making PA safer by limiting the number of people carrying guns...and the people will buy it. Nothing will change under this governor.

Call me cynical, but this is a sign of the times. Government no longer represents the people, nor are they restrained by such trivial things as the Constitution or the laws. Governments, Federal, State, and to a lesser extent, local, do as they please knowing that they will not be called to account. The only exception to this was the state legislature's pay raise debacle. The people sounded off on that one only because it hit them where it counts, in the pocket book.

[1FingrCHan]

Right on, N3HCP. I think the people in general have been "sleeping" for too long. Liberty is only a term known to American seemingly. No where else in the world the people enjoy "rights" granted by the Bill of Rights than here in the USA.

But first, I think one should look at the people one votes into the offices. Whether they be democrat or republican, no matter. What matter is that they work for you, the people. This is a link to some of the "patriotic" bumper stickers, and I think these stickers say it like it is

http://www.libertystickers.com/4706253_38289.htm

Heck, these stickers make so much sense about the current state and federal government as well as politician in general that I feel that I should let these finish my post for me, he he he, enjoy eh.



1FingrCHan