"people who keep us safe" Reasons to register guns

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13-Year Old, Katey, Gets it Right!

A thirteen-year-old Canadian provides valuable insight into
Canadian guns laws in an informational video on the "people who keep us safe".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJggEvIlsJ4

When ever you hear people in US calling to register all guns think about the excellent points made in this video by a 13 year old girl and the cost of registration. The anti-gunners still can't get common sense gun laws to work maybe because its not common sense to register guns.
register criminal - Yes
register guns - No.

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2004/02...rdi040213.html

Gun registry cost soars to $2 billion
Last Updated: Friday, February 13, 2004 | 11:02 PM ET
CBC News

Canada's controversial gun registry is costing taxpayers far more than previously reported, CBC News has learned.
Nearly $2 billion has either been spent on or committed to the federal program since it was introduced in the mid-1990s, according to documents obtained by Zone Libre of CBC's French news service.

The figure is roughly twice as much as an official government estimate that caused an uproar across the country.

The gun registry was originally supposed to cost less than $2 million. In December 2002, Auditor General Sheila Fraser revealed that the program would run up bills of at least $1 billion by 2005.

But the calculations remained incomplete, so CBC News obtained documents through the Access to Information Act and crunched the numbers.

A large part of the $2 billion expense is a computer system that's supposed to track registered guns, according to one document. Officials initially estimated it would cost about $1 million. Expenses now hover close to $750 million and the electronic system is still not fully operational.


Other errors and unforeseen expenses include $8 million in refunds to people who registered their guns, and millions more in legal fees that mounted during court challenges.

A spokesperson for the Coalition for Gun Control disputed Zone Libre's calculations, calling the $2 billion figure inaccurate.

The auditor general has pledged to re-examine the gun registry to come up with an updated assessment. Last month, Prime Minister Paul Martin rejected calls to scrap the program. But he said the government intends to review the way it's being run and is prepared to make changes.


FROM JAN. 7, 2004: Ottawa to review gun registry


FROM JAN. 21, 2004: Don't cut back on gun registry, police chiefs tell Ottawa

Former Justice Minister Anne McLellan declined to talk to the CBC about the gun registry during the investigation. Bill Baker, the head of the Canadian Firearms Centre, also refused comment.


As a side note allegedly it only cost the tax payers of PA 500 million bucks a year to maintain the illegal gun database it has now but when asked about it use and purpose the state police never can show ANY tangible benefits for all that money spent.
Don’t you think all that gun database tax money and personal would be better used in, catching, arresting, and prosecuting criminals?
See thread about HB 1478 and increasing PICS fees

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Note the United Nations connection as why firearms have to be registered, IF you have any doubts about the UN feeling about guns view the statue of a handgun with its barrel tried into a knot at UN world headquarters.




Gun registry lives on
TheStar.com - News - Gun registry lives on

Conservatives back away from promise to scrap firearm regulations one year after bill introduced

June 11, 2007
Susan Delacourt
Ottawa Bureau Chief

OTTAWA–The gun registry is dead. Long live the gun registry.

It is beginning to look like the Conservatives are not going to be able to keep their long-held promise to scrap the federal firearms-registration system.

This week will mark one year since the Conservatives introduced legislation to scrap the gun registry. Called Bill C-21, the legislation has languished at first-reading stage in Parliament since June 19 last year.

There were tentative plans for C-21 to be debated last Friday, but they went nowhere and an official from the Government House Leaders' office, speaking on background, said the bigger priority is to get budget legislation passed before the summer break. Parliament could recess as early as the end of this week.

Liberal MP Sue Barnes, the public safety critic for the official opposition, says the government is backing away from C-21 because it knows it's doomed to failure in the minority Commons.

"I've encouraged them to bring it forth. They don't think they have the votes, so they don't want the honest debate in the chambers of Parliament," Barnes (London West) says.

Conservatives were clear, before and after the election that brought them to power 16 months ago, that they would kill the gun registry set up by the Liberals in 1995, which required all owners of firearms to obtain and file certificates with the federal government.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper repeatedly made the vow in his campaign speeches, calling the system "useless."

Last June, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day, with much fanfare, rolled out Bill C-21, titled "An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act." It was the much-awaited legislation to dismantle the registry program.

Gun advocates rejoiced, but all three opposition parties promised they would make it difficult to tear down a system that's used approximately 5,000 times a day by police across the country, according to the Canadian Police Association and figures compiled by the government's own firearms centre.

One year later, it now seems the government has been thwarted and the discipline of power has forced the Conservatives to back away from some of their more extreme rhetoric about the registry system.

Though the government has taken some steps within its power – turning over responsibility for the Firearms Centre to the RCMP and cutting the annual budget for the program – it does not seem to be moving anywhere on getting Bill C-21 through Parliament.

Just a few weeks ago, the government posted a notice on the Canada Gazette, extending an amnesty period for long-gun owners to register their firearms for another year.

That notice states only vaguely that Bill C-21 is before the Commons and describes its fate in conditional terms – "should it come into force in the future."

Moreover, on the legislative summary accompanying the bill on the parliamentary website, some problems are noted with the concept of scrapping the gun registry, including potential job losses at the main firearms centre in Miramichi, N.B., and potential losses of $22.7 million a year in licensing revenue

Most notably, perhaps, this legislative summary pins the cost of the gun registry at $1 billion over the past 10 years – not the $2 billion figure Harper repeatedly cited during and after the election campaign.

It is also far from clear if the Conservatives have done any work to prepare the ground for a post-registry regime. For instance, Canada is a signatory to a United Nations resolution, passed in 2001, which commits states to some national system of registration for firearms. If Canada intended to back away from this system, it is required to give written notification. There is no sign that Canada has served any such notice.

Further, Bill C-21 envisions a new system that effectively takes registration out of the hands of the government and thrusts it into the hands of gun retailers.

"Canada's new government has also reintroduced the requirement for businesses to maintain records of all transactions involving the sale, purchase or disposal of nonrestricted firearms," the Public Safety Ministry declared in a "backgrounder" issued a year ago.

One year ago, commentators speculated the Conservatives introduced C-21 just before the summer break so that MPs could go back to their ridings and say they were on their way to fulfilling their promise about scrapping the gun registry.


It remains to be seen how hot it's going to be for those MPs now that it looks like another year has gone by and the gun registry is still firmly and legally in place.

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Well produced
I have to get me one of them solder guns.