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Oh wow, just WOW! I read this on a fortune cookie once but can't remember exactly how it goes.

It starts off "He who agrues with a.............".

I know people who are moderate, left leaning, right leaning, very liberal and conservetive. But I never seen the same person on both extreme ends.
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The Bible does not say "thou shall not kill."

except in this part There are many instances of this phrase in the Bible (King James Version). Exodus 20:13: Thou shalt not kill. Deuteronomy 5:17: Thou shalt not kill. ...

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The correct translation from the Hebrew is "You shall not murder." This is DRASTICALLY different from "You shall not kill." And the difference is vital to Christians who believe with have a duty to defend ourselves and our families.
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Just a little disclaimer, I'm not the type to go around telling people to GTFO my country, but here we go.
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The Europe that your forefathers left is not the Europe that exists today. It is much easier for people to make ends meet in that nation. I don't think its sad that more people want t imitate the European model. I think its sad that there is so much economic inequality in the U.S. Not everyone had the same opportunities in life.
Wow...Socialist viewpoint. Not cool, man. Seriously, people who want "economic equality" or a European model need to go to Europe and stop tearing down The Greatest Country In The World (IMNSHO) and trying to ruin it for the rest of us. There are plenty of countries where you can be just as poor as everyone else, this country doesn't need that. Hell, at that, even the poorest of our poor are not very bad off in this country.
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Stem cell research is unethical, that's why.



Well that's what it means to be a true Christian. With Christianity, life doesn't revolve round you, it revolves around God. Why should an unborn child be killed for an event (rape) that was not his/her fault.

embryonic stem cell research might be unethical but other types are not. I hope you understand the difference but I'd guess you are so brainwashed by the catholic church that you dont see the difference.

luckily we are not all christians, and some of us think that we should not punish a women for an event (rape) that was not her fault by forcing her to have a child does not want.
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The correct translation from the Hebrew is "You shall not murder." This is DRASTICALLY different from "You shall not kill." And the difference is vital to Christians who believe with have a duty to defend ourselves and our families.


as i don't speak or read hebrew I can't translate it myself. I don't see a huge difference. spare me your definition of what you think it means. I don't believe in god, the easter bunny or santa claus. It doesn't mean i cant live with morals and values.
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The correct translation from the Hebrew is "You shall not murder." This is DRASTICALLY different from "You shall not kill." And the difference is vital to Christians who believe with have a duty to defend ourselves and our families.


as i don't speak or read hebrew I can't translate it myself. I don't see a huge difference. spare me your definition of what you think it means. I don't believe in god, the easter bunny or santa claus. It doesn't mean i cant live with morals and values.
It was a point YOU brought up, though if you cannot understand the difference between "kill" and "murder," it's going to be hard to communicate. I've given you factual information, not what I think it means, but only you can decide whether you are interested in facts or just throwing out garbage arguments. Nor has there been a moral judgement made on you, or even a hint of one. No need to get crabby.
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It was a point YOU brought up, though if you cannot understand the difference between "kill" and "murder," it's going to be hard to communicate. I've given you factual information, not what I think it means, but only you can decide whether you are interested in facts or just throwing out garbage arguments. Nor has there been a moral judgement made on you, or even a hint of one. No need to get crabby.
I felt no moral attack. I understand the difference you're implying between murder and kill. What you've given me is what a bunch of scolars have determined a 5000 year old document to mean. Do you also believe the world was created in 6 days? Are these the "so called facts" you're speaking of? I'm not trying to sway your way of thinking and I doubt you will change mine. We live in a free country where we are allowed differing opinions. If christianity or any other religion helps you get thru the day and live a better life i'm all for it.
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The rest of society is obligated to help since my brother became autistic after receiving an MMR vaccine. The government mandates MMR vaccines in order to be able to enroll in a public school. That is the reason why.
Excuse me? Please provide proof, hell even some evidence would do, in support of your assertion. Here, let me state it baldly. Vaccination causes autism.
Good thing you don't get to decide what I'm obligated to do.
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The OP should be glad he lives in America where he has the right to express his many horrendous opinions.








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Guns from foreign places are more likely to have been used to kill some people's grandpas or daddy's.
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