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maybe the autisim is just your god's will??? remember he works in mysterious ways. and he never gives you more than you can bear.
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This is where I respectfully disagree. The model of minimum government can be harmful to the weakest members of society. Let's use business as an example. Before the government passed labor law and laws regulating work place conditions, you had children working in factories. You had workers who were exposed to asbestos (and developed mesothelioma later on in life). You had a lot of terrible things going on that should not have been happening. ...................................

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Just addressing this part and not your entire post. Your assertions regarding child labor are incorrect. I invite you to read the following material:

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http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=45

http://mises.org/tag/child%20
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To be honest etep, I don't wish to debate Christian morality. I have my beliefs and I don't see them changing anytime soon. I feel I have led a morally correct life for the most part, and have asked forgiveness to those I trangressed upon and God. Some of it, I still haven't forgiven myself though others have. I have raised my children with strong moral compasses and with the adopted and foster....I have some work to do.

The only thing I have to add is thank you. You have made your position clear and stood by your convictions. That is to be commended. I continue to disagree with your basic stance. But I won't tell you to shut up and sit down, not unless your political base begins to actually make headway and start this country towards a theocracy. At such a time there will be nothing left but a vicious fight. Peace be with you.
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I respect your right to worship as you wish, but to come off the way you do, does not paint you as very Christ like.

As you get older you will realize that there is much good in many religions and that you are no better and have no better chance of heaven than the rest of humanity.

Personally I think organized religion is part of the problem and is responsible for more murder than anything since the beginning of time .
I agree with all this. Especially the bolded part. Every single major war this world has ever seen, has had religion involved in some capacity. Religion is a disease, based on blind faith, thats responsible for many a deaths.

I choose NOT to pollute my mind with such nonsense.
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maybe the autisim is just your god's will??? remember he works in mysterious ways. and he never gives you more than you can bear.
Actually, when God was asked why he did not send help (to aid the weak and oppressed), he replied by saying that he did send help. He sent his followers to help the weak and the poor. There is nothing mysterious about God's ways. Those who are in positions to help the poor should do so, since that is what god expects of them.

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Just addressing this part and not your entire post. Your assertions regarding child labor are incorrect. I invite you to read the following material:

http://mises.org/resources/2665

http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=45

http://mises.org/tag/child%20
How are my assertions incorrect? The first page goes on an on about how the government took freedom away from parents. I didn't get to the 2nd one. The third one didn't load.

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To be honest etep, I don't wish to debate Christian morality. I have my beliefs and I don't see them changing anytime soon. I feel I have led a morally correct life for the most part, and have asked forgiveness to those I trangressed upon and God. Some of it, I still haven't forgiven myself though others have. I have raised my children with strong moral compasses and with the adopted and foster....I have some work to do.

The only thing I have to add is thank you. You have made your position clear and stood by your convictions. That is to be commended. I continue to disagree with your basic stance. But I won't tell you to shut up and sit down, not unless your political base begins to actually make headway and start this country towards a theocracy. At such a time there will be nothing left but a vicious fight. Peace be with you.
If you do the things you say you do, then are living up to God's standards. If my political base starts to make headway, then telling me to shut up will be useless. That's basically what happened in the last election with the left. Now they run the country for the moment and no matter how much any republican tells them to buzz off, they will get their agenda through. Also, you should know that the Bible does advocate theocracy and government control, rather than secular democracy and small government.

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I agree with all this. Especially the bolded part. Every single major war this world has ever seen, has had religion involved in some capacity. Religion is a disease, based on blind faith, thats responsible for many a deaths.

I choose NOT to pollute my mind with such nonsense.
In many wars, monarchs exploited religious belief to further their agenda. However, that was not the cause of war. Imperialism and greed begin most wars.
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wow, reading through this thread and i thonk it has bipolar disorder. kind of makes you forget what the topic is
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