Originally Posted by LittleRedToyota
so you believe in the government forcing your religious views on everyone else while simultaneously stealing our money to redistribute it to people who did not earn it, eh?
Progressive taxation is not stealing by biblical standards. This isn't your earth, it's God's earth. Everyone is obligated to follow God's laws. The people who "did not earn it, are people who have no means of changing their situation. I am not saying that bums should have all of the luxuries that hard-working people receive. I am saying that people suffering from disabilities and people who cannot advance due to lack of opportunities should receive some help so that they can at least receive basic necessities. Just out of curiosity, do you think that kids with downs syndrome should work in a sweat shop for the rest of their lives? After all, they didn't take advantage of America's vast educational opportunities.
you have pretty much taken the worst of the "right" and combined it with the worst of the "left".
no thanks.
Like I said before, each party only has half of the truth.
personally, i believe in the ideals outlined in the declaration of independence (the whole inalienable right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness thing) and the constitution (limited government).
The ideals listed in the constitution are not the ideals listed in the Bible.
charitable people *voluntarily give* to help others. government run extortion (i.e., your "progressive" taxation scheme) is not chartity...it is theft.
The problem is that not enough people are being charitable. Before the age of social security and government programs, the poor and disabled had to rely on handouts from the wealthy. It wasn't enough for those people to survive on. That's the reason why you had people who couldn't even afford to buy shoes aore see a doctor in those times.
you seem to be implying causation...the scientific community strongly disputes your view here.
And how many times has the scientific community produced drugs which were first considered to be safe, but later found to be very harmful?
btw, if the government didn't steal so much of our money, more of us would have more money to donate to charities--including those that support care for people with autism.
I said it before. You people had your chance before the age of social security and government programs. The poor and disabled couldn't get by with the meager contributions of the wealthy.
1. please respect my right to be free from your religion. if you do not, we will clash.
The Bible says that God gave people the right to be wicked if they choose. But God has the right to judge everyone and sentence them accordingly after death.
2. there is actually a strong element of communal thinking in portions of jewish culture. yeshivas and kibbutzes, for example, are quite communal in nature. that's fine...nobody is forced to join a yeshiva or kibbutz...but they are what they are. when the government forces, it, though it becaomes something theft. doesn't one of your hallowed ten commandments mention something about not "stealing"?
That is not theft by biblical standards.
oh boy...that's scary. if you become an LEO or end up in some other position of authority, please remember, that, as much as it may disgust you, america is a free country. you do not have the right to force your morality on others. you do not have right redistribute what they have earned for themselves.
Actually, the government does have the right to redistribute wealth if the public supports laws which do so. Ever heard of social security? Plus, there is no amendment against progressive taxation.
that is true. specialization leads to greater efficiency. but it also leads to dependence. there is a balance to walk there. while i am a great proponent of free global markets, ignoring the effects of becoming less self-sufficient as a nation could lead to catastrophe.
You are right in that it leads to dependence. However, humans cannot afford to fight wars against each other till the end of time. The weapons are too destructive. If there is a WWIII, all of our guns will be useless, as there will be nobody alive to use them.
actually, it sounds like you do not know the difference between socialism and communism.
Actually, it sounds like you are the one who doesn't know. In high school, I took Advanced placement european history. On the national exam, I scored a 5 (the highest you can get). I learned all about socialism. Communism is also known as AUTHORITARIAN SOCIALISM (socialism with a lot of government control). The type of socialism that you see in Europe is called DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM (since people can elect leaders from different parties).
it also sounds like you fail to differentiate between economic policy and social policy...and economic systems vs. political systems.
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