Wife had an interesting question.

[Lone Wolf]

Originally Posted by thetruepyromaniak

not sure if it is directly connected. I just took the boy to the Dr. office and was asked to fill out a form. It asked the usual any allergys, medication, pets, medical history, then it asked If anyone in our home uses tobacco, and then it asked if there are fire arms in the home. I left it blank. I dont understand how going for a routine check up and guns in my home are connected.

These questions have been on those forms since at least 2000. I first noticed them after my son was born.

[son of the revolution]

Originally Posted by thetruepyromaniak

not sure if it is directly connected. I just took the boy to the Dr. office and was asked to fill out a form. It asked the usual any allergys, medication, pets, medical history, then it asked If anyone in our home uses tobacco, and then it asked if there are fire arms in the home. I left it blank. I dont understand how going for a routine check up and guns in my home are connected.

There is no connection at all , other then those forms are used by the AMA to collect stats to support ridiculous anti gun bias and maybe even used as an excuse by the Doctor to give you an earful about their opinion on the matter .

Personally , Im just itching for the busy bodies at my daughters school or my soon to be born son's pediatrician to start asking intrusive and inappropriate questions so I can unload on 'em with both barrels

[KMAG]

First off, are the kids yours? If they are foster kids, the county children and youth agency can do pretty much what it likes. Foster parents may challenge the removal on best interest of kids grounds- very few succeed. Otherwise, the CYS would need to show imminent risk tough std to meet. I deal with CYS cases regularly (2-3 a week) and have not confronted a county CYS pursuing an action to remove children merely b/c the parents have firearms - unless they were foster parents violating the foster parent contract, which states no firearms in house.

And yes, I am a PA attorney.

[thetruepyromaniak]

Originally Posted by KMAG

And yes, I am a PA attorney.

I believe that is the first time I seen this. Usually its IANAL lol

[Leeload45]

Originally Posted by KMAG

First off, are the kids yours? If they are foster kids, the county children and youth agency can do pretty much what it likes. Foster parents may challenge the removal on best interest of kids grounds- very few succeed. Otherwise, the CYS would need to show imminent risk tough std to meet. I deal with CYS cases regularly (2-3 a week) and have not confronted a county CYS pursuing an action to remove children merely b/c the parents have firearms - unless they were foster parents violating the foster parent contract, which states no firearms in house.

And yes, I am a PA attorney.

This is all pretty much true and standard. In my state, however, foster parents can have firearms in the home, they just have to keep them locked up.

[gapman]

Originally Posted by KMAG

...a county CYS pursuing an action to remove children merely b/c the parents have firearms - unless they were foster parents violating the foster parent contract, which states no firearms in house.

And yes, I am a PA attorney.

Sounds more like draconian terms that The People's Republic of New Jersey would stipulate...are you sure you didn't mean to type NJ?

Goodness forbid the foster children get to live in a home whose safety is enhanced by a responsible and armed caregiver.

And to think that I've sometimes entertained the prospects of being a foster parent one day...guess that idea is out the window.

[bnkrtstk]

My wife and I have adopted two children, and are in the process of the third. All of whom started out in foster care with the state. All the social workers knew we own firearms, and we both have LTCF's. No problems.

[KMAG]

Each of PA county has its own CYS. Each CYS has its own discretionary rules for foster parents beyond those mandated by federal statute (background searches), DPW regulations, and PA statutes. Do not assume the foster family rules are the same in every county.

Likewise, the foster parent-CYS relationship is contractual - in theory, negotiable on some terms.

[MontCo Alex]

Originally Posted by son of the revolution

To the OP , just another reason to keep the handy micro recorder you surely purchased for OCing run ins with the Cops , handy and active in case your neighbors try to stir some shit .

Just be careful, you can record the police without telling them because they don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy as public officers. Your neighbors would be a different story, i'm not sure of the law exactly though.

-Alex

[Yellowfin]

Originally Posted by Malanthor

Thanks to all who replied to this question. I never had a problem carrying in front of them. It's just my wife was concerned about them. I am on vacation this week so I am home more. Normaly I never see these neighbors, but since I am home this week I have seen them more.

I will have to take a chance and talk to them see where they stand on this issue. If I see them I will let you all know what happens.

Thanks again everyone.

A good way to start that up with them is perhaps to talk about their work and ask if they ever feel it's dangerous and how they handle the possibility of threats from people. Their answer will give good information about how they handle the issue without tipping your cards too quickly.