Condolences to our Philly members

[billamj]

With Michael Nutjob as your soon to be mayor I just wanted to take the time to express my condolences to you and suggest that you move as quickly as possible. Lets face facts the antis own that city and you will be screwed by a Nutjob mayorality.

[dgg9]

Originally Posted by billamj

With Michael Nutjob as your soon to be mayor I just wanted to take the time to express my condolences to you and suggest that you move as quickly as possible. Lets face facts the antis own that city and you will be screwed by a Nutjob mayorality.

What's especially bad about Nutter is that, in addition to constantly pressing for anti-gun legislation, he's already stated he will use the current crime "crisis" to use various emergency (aka, police state) measures, like unconstitutional stop and frisk. Philly will become a police state within 4 years.

From Day 1, I've always felt my residency in Philly was in constant jeopardy from Philly pols. It seemed always just a matter of time before they found a way to ruin the city and turn it into another fascist RKBA-deprived police state city.

Well, I brought in my CCW renewal paperwork last Friday, so I get a fresh set of 5 years before the inauguration.

[ChamberedRound]

Originally Posted by dgg9

What's especially bad about Nutter is that, in addition to constantly pressing for anti-gun legislation, he's already stated he will use the current crime "crisis" to use various emergency (aka, police state) measures, like unconstitutional stop and frisk. Philly will become a police state within 4 years.

That's scary that he will essentially declare Martial Law to force legislation, or at least civil compliance, down people's throats. I hope that someone out there with the means (read: $$$) can put up a fight against these Democratic Socialists.

[dgg9]

Originally Posted by ChamberedRound

That's scary that he will essentially declare Martial Law to force legislation, or at least civil compliance, down people's throats. I hope that someone out there with the means (read: $$$) can put up a fight against these Democratic Socialists.

Yeah, but who? The civil rights groups like the ACLU what you would hope would be appalled, are RKBA-indifferent. Maybe the NRA will come through.

But it's safest to assume the worst. As for me, I will try to stay portable, and be ready to clear out if need be.

[ChamberedRound]

Originally Posted by dgg9

Yeah, but who? The civil rights groups like the ACLU what you would hope would be appalled, are RKBA-indifferent. Maybe the NRA will come through.

But it's safest to assume the worst. As for me, I will try to stay portable, and be ready to clear out if need be.

I don't know who. Given that "Parker v. District of Columbia" was essentially bankrolled by Robert A. Levy, a lawyer of means (see citation below) I can only hope that someone of like mind would be willing to take on the Philadelphia city govt. in it's illegal efforts to usurp the state's preemption and potentially impose martial law.

Citation:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...700983_pf.html

[billamj]

Originally Posted by dgg9

Yeah, but who? The civil rights groups like the ACLU what you would hope would be appalled, are RKBA-indifferent. Maybe the NRA will come through.

But it's safest to assume the worst. As for me, I will try to stay portable, and be ready to clear out if need be.

Actually if you read the history of the ACLU you'll find that it was founded with the idea of bringing a Socialist moore to the United States using the Constitution against the country by bending it to make it fit their ideals. This is about the same time that the "living document" definition of the Constitution began to come into vogue. It should surpise no one who has read up on the ACLU that they are anti-2A, you can't control an armed populace.

[ChamberedRound]

Originally Posted by billamj

Actually if you read the history of the ACLU you'll find that it was founded with the idea of bringing a Socialist moore to the United States using the Constitution against the country by bending it to make it fit their ideals. This is about the same time that the "living document" definition of the Constitution began to come into vogue. It should surpise no one who has read up on the ACLU that they are anti-2A, you can't control an armed populace.

Agreed. The ACLU is not RKBA-indifferent, but rather RKBA-opposed.

[Frenchy]

Sigh, it will be rough to lose Philadelphia to New Jersey… You guys should have fought to have a fence put in at the border.. Must be rough out there. Illegal immigrants AND New Jersey / New York to the north… The rest of us just have to deal with Mexicans

On the up side, you can always pray the rest of Pennsylvania wants to rescue that bell of liberty, or that people remember that song by Elton John, Philadelphia Freedom!

[knight0334]

So long as the courts are able to operate, Martial Law can NOT be imposed. Habeas Corpus would still be in effect, thus a police state couldn't happen.

And if I remember correctly, only the Federal Government can impose Martial Law.


If Philly did indeed try such a thing, PA's own Supreme Court would shut them down.

[dgg9]

Originally Posted by knight0334

So long as the courts are able to operate, Martial Law can NOT be imposed. Habeas Corpus would still be in effect, thus a police state couldn't happen.

The problem is that the statutes have various "emergency" powers, which will be abused -- to some degree. If only gunowners are harassed, maybe no one with standing will bring suit.

It could get bad for gun owners in particular, but not bad enough in general for the matter to get escalated the state SC. There's a whole lot of rather grody middle ground that can happen.