Is this legal in PA?

[vetter3006]

I am selling a semi auto rifle and live in PA and the buyer is out of state, Can I ship the rifle to his FFL dealer personaly, I have a copy of his license. Is this legal under the PA firearms laws? Or does it have to go through FFL dealer to dealer?

[danp]

My best understanding is that you can ship directly to his FFL in his state of residence that will then transfer the firearm to him per his state's laws.

[NineseveN]

Yes, it's legal. Federal law is what you need to consider as it's between two states not intrastate. Federal law allows for a non-FFL to send a firearm to an FFL (but not to another non-FFL).

[JayBell]

also...

rifles may be shipped USPS by non-ffls, but not handguns.

Handguns can only be shipped by dealers via USPS, non-ffls must use a contract carrier, like UPS or Fed Ex.

either way, insure the gun for current replacement cost also.

[vetter3006]

Thanks for the replies, Also do I need to do anything after I send the rilfe,papers to submit to anyone? or do I keep and file the mail reciept and the FFL dealers copy of his license?

[NineseveN]

Originally Posted by vetter3006

do I keep and file the mail reciept and the FFL dealers copy of his license?

You got it, that's all, just stash that stuff away just in case and you're good to go.

[vetter3006]

Yes everything was good but try and ship a rifle with USPS they just won't let you.
I had to go to another local post office and just ship the box and did not tell them what was inside, shipped priority with signature request. I hope it gets to it's location and I don't have any problems.

[NineseveN]

Originally Posted by vetter3006

Yes everything was good but try and ship a rifle with USPS they just won't let you.
I had to go to another local post office and just ship the box and did not tell them what was inside, shipped priority with signature request. I hope it gets to it's location and I don't have any problems.

I'd very reluctant not to tell them what is inside.

[vetter3006]

Originally Posted by NineseveN

I'd very reluctant not to tell them what is inside.

I found that out the hard way,that's why I skipped and went to another post office and just shipped it like I said priority mail with signature requested.

[JayBell]

just a reminder, you are required by law to tell the USPS and any common/contract carrier that there is a firearm being shipped.

they are prohibited from placing markings on the outside of the box indicating that the box contains a firearm, but you MUST tell them its ther.

http://www.atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#b7

(B7) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?[Back]


A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]



(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier? [Back]


A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]