act 235 firearms module

[trailwatcher]

is anyone familiar with the firearm qualification of act 235 specifically at what distance are you shooting and what size are the targets

[DaveM55]

The school I attended shot from a maximum of 15 yards and as close as 5 yards. I don't remember exactly which target but I think it was a B27 or TQ19 silhouette.

[TheFighter88]

If you haven't already checked, make sure your vision doesn't disqualify you from act 235. I was going to get certified, but my vision, though easily correctable to 20/20 (or better) was not adequate. I forget what exactly it is, but many people don't have good enough vision to qualify.

[shefearsnothing]

As far as a concern with vision: you have to get a physical and the PSP has to approve you AFTER that is submitted to them so you shouldn't have any problems as long as you get that approval letter. (unless I am mistaken and there is some other vision qualification?)

[DaveM55]

Originally Posted by shefearsnothing

As far as a concern with vision: you have to get a physical and the PSP has to approve you AFTER that is submitted to them so you shouldn't have any problems as long as you get that approval letter. (unless I am mistaken and there is some other vision qualification?)

You also have to pass the psychology test prior to submitting the application to the PSP. Thank goodness it was multiple choice. LOL

[TheFighter88]

The physical exam form on the Lethal Weapons Training page says at the bottom that your better eye must be at least 20/70 uncorrected and your other eye must be at least 20/200. The rest of it's a little wordy, so I could be wrong, but I'm thinking it means that, on top of the 20/70 and 20/200 requirement, you have to use glasses/contact if your vision is not 20/20 or 20/40.

[Chazman321]

http://www.mpoetc.state.pa.us/mpotrs...=1133&q=440289

The handgun course of fire for the police firearms course that all Waiver of training applicants must successfully complete with a minimum score of 75% and all police officers must successfully complete annually in order to satisfy mandatory in-service re-certification requirements will meet the following minimum standards:

A handgun course of fire must be considered a generally accepted police qualification course consisting of at least fifty (50) rounds of duty ammunition. A minimum of ten (10%) percent of the rounds must be fired at a distance of 25 yards or greater.

The course shall include stages to determine the applicant's or officers' overall proficiency; including, but not limited to marksmanship, safety, weapon operating procedures or tactical skills (i.e., use of cover, tactical reloading), with the weapon s/he will use in the performance of their duties. Requirements for distances of firing positions are: Stages no closer than one (1) yard and at least one stage of fire from the twenty-five (25) yard line or greater distance.

That's for police officers, I don't know how far off ACT 235 would be...

-Chaz

[shefearsnothing]

Originally Posted by TheFighter88

The physical exam form on the Lethal Weapons Training page says at the bottom that your better eye must be at least 20/70 uncorrected and your other eye must be at least 20/200. The rest of it's a little wordy, so I could be wrong, but I'm thinking it means that, on top of the 20/70 and 20/200 requirement, you have to use glasses/contact if your vision is not 20/20 or 20/40.

Ok. I never read the paper. I just went and did the physical. Then they called me and said the PSP sent it back because I did the vision test with my glasses and I had to do it without. So I went in and said "ok I can't read anything." LOL! I was able to read a little of it but I'm blind as a bat without my glasses or contacts. Ok, not really but damn near I think!


DaveM55 -- Mine wasn't all multiple choice! I had to sit and have a conversation with the lady!!! LOL! I just loved some of those questions. There was one on my test...something like "do you engage in any unusual sexual behaviors?" I wondered...unusual by whose definition? She said the test was developed YEARS ago so....I mean, they probably didn't have all the stuff then that they have now....it was probably considered unusual then to do some of the things people do now (which these days would be considered normal).

[DaveM55]

Originally Posted by shefearsnothing

DaveM55 -- Mine wasn't all multiple choice! I had to sit and have a conversation with the lady!!! LOL! I just loved some of those questions. There was one on my test...something like "do you engage in any unusual sexual behaviors?" I wondered...unusual by whose definition? She said the test was developed YEARS ago so....I mean, they probably didn't have all the stuff then that they have now....it was probably considered unusual then to do some of the things people do now (which these days would be considered normal).

I had the same type of sit down questioning. The doc read from a list of questions he asks his typical patients which are troubled juveniles. I laughed when he asked if I ever thought of running away from home.

[DaveM55]

Originally Posted by Chazman321

http://www.mpoetc.state.pa.us/mpotrs...=1133&q=440289


That's for police officers, I don't know how far off ACT 235 would be...

-Chaz

Having qualified under both MPOETC and ACT235 I can tell you they are worlds apart. The ACT235 doesn't require presenting from the holster or any tactical reloading while shooting a section of the course. The max distance was 15 yards. There were no failure drills. There wasn't any movement while firing. But of course this was just the one ACT235 school I attended, maybe others are better.