Ar-15 & Hk-91

[Arcana71]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

Mark, here is a PTR91 the letters stand for Precision Target Rifle model 91

Thanks for the heads-up on this. Though I still don't see one in my future.

[phillyd2]

Having owned the real deal HK years ago (like a fool I sold it during the ban) and now the above pictured PTR I can say that it is as close to a HK as you will get. JLD purchased the original HK tooling from Portugal and do a great job on these puppies. That said, if I were a billionaire I would still buy a original HK. For the rest of us a near perfect "clone" for under $1K can't be beat. Fit and Finish is excellent. I have always been a big fan of the HK 91 & 93 so I hope my bias is forgiven.

[Joe Demko]

Originally Posted by aubie515

You are not missing anything on not owning a HK91...worst firearm purchase I ever made...the PTRs are suppose to be better than the originals. Get the PTR if you must have a 91 type rifle. For the same money, I would suggest a DPMS LR...will outshoot the 91/PTR/FAL.

Huh. I have a PTR 91. One of the arly ones when they still used the polygonal rifling. It's an extremely accurate rifle. You mileage, of course, seems to have varied.

[phillyd2]

HK may be pricey but in regards to quality aubie515 is the very first I have ever heard that was not happy either with the HK or PTR.

[Zeef]

Originally Posted by aubie515

You are not missing anything on not owning a HK91...worst firearm purchase I ever made...the PTRs are suppose to be better than the originals. Get the PTR if you must have a 91 type rifle. For the same money, I would suggest a DPMS LR...will outshoot the 91/PTR/FAL.

PTRs are "supposed " to be better?? Why are you suggesting the PTR if you do not know for sure.

I have shot both and own a real 91. The PTR/JDLs are not bad if you can get used to the plastic (navy) grip. I can't. So if one can swing for a used HK-91, go for the gold - better investment.

Z

[Azzy]

They are very cool guns, Broomhandle had one at the July WPA group shoot.

(Only gun that day that bruised my shoulder.. but worth it )

[The_War_Wagon]

PTRs are "supposed " to be better?? Why are you suggesting the PTR if you do not know for sure.

I have shot both and own a real 91. The PTR/JDLs are not bad if you can get used to the plastic (navy) grip. I can't. So if one can swing for a used HK-91, go for the gold - better investment.

I HAVE owned both - both are excellent rifles, and BOTH will serve you well under most any conditions I can imagine.

That said, I still own a PTR91-KPF...

Bob

[bubba23]

Originally Posted by Arcana71

I don't need one. I have no real use for one.

Didn't know those were part of the equation.

[TonyF]

Originally Posted by phillyd2

HK may be pricey but in regards to quality aubie515 is the very first I have ever heard that was not happy either with the HK or PTR.

I guess I'm #2.

I have no experience with the PTR's but I did own an HK91. Extremely well made for a "sheet metal" rifle, "teutonically" over-engineered in all the right places and more accurate than an MBR has a right to be.

However, I could not get past the rather poor human engineering, poor balance and I very much disliked the diopter rear sight.

OTOH, I would never have felt disadvantaged if I'd have had to use one to save my skin.