Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association
HB 1243 (Preemption Law Changes) Passes House NOW on to Senate - HELP needed

On Oct 6th HB 1243, just passed its third consideration in the House by a vote of 143-54. There are only a few days left to get this through the Senate and we're going to need YOUR help! CLICK HERE


Go Back   Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association Discussion Forum > Discussion > General

Notices

General General firearm-related talk that does not fit into any of the other forums.

PAFOA Sponsors Businesses that provide financial and technical support to PAFOA. PAFOA Shopping Partners A percentage of all sales made through these partner links goes to PAFOA.
Arms Dealer Logo

Arms Dealer — Free Firearm Classifieds, Gun Shop & Shooting Range Reviews

Arms Dealer is your one-stop shop for free firearm classifieds, gun shop & shooting range reviews.

Join today to start buying, selling and reviewing!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old October 20th, 2008, 09:37 PM
bogey1's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location:
next to my neighbor, Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,838
Rep Power: 799396
bogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default WHATS THE LEGAL SIZE OF A ROAD

my question is, is there a legal standard size width of a highway (double yellow line, solid white line on shoulder). the reason i ask is, i travel springfield rd in springfield delco,(sleepy hollow deli area) and ever since the roads have been milled and resurfaced the stripes seem to be WAY much closer together. i was following an suv tonite and noticed there was about 8" on either side of his outer tires between the lines, that doesnt give much room for error if you know what i mean. thank you in advanced, bogey
Reply With Quote

Thanks for visiting our forum! If you ever plan to return you should consider quickly registering for a forum account, especially if you're in Pennsylvania. It's simple to do and best of all free. Once registered you'll be able to participate in our discussions and keep up to date on issues important to Pennsylvania firearm owners!

  #2 (permalink)  
Old October 20th, 2008, 09:53 PM
HiredGoon's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location:
City in, Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,880
Rep Power: 269419
HiredGoon has a reputation beyond reputeHiredGoon has a reputation beyond reputeHiredGoon has a reputation beyond reputeHiredGoon has a reputation beyond reputeHiredGoon has a reputation beyond reputeHiredGoon has a reputation beyond reputeHiredGoon has a reputation beyond reputeHiredGoon has a reputation beyond reputeHiredGoon has a reputation beyond reputeHiredGoon has a reputation beyond reputeHiredGoon has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: WHATS THE LEGAL SIZE OF A ROAD

You might find some info on that at the PennDot site and click on "Design & Construction" and all the sub categories.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old October 20th, 2008, 09:54 PM
P-11 shooter's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location:
Glade Mill Lake, Cooperstown, Pennsylvania
(Butler County)
Posts: 3,857
Rep Power: 2381
P-11 shooter has a reputation beyond reputeP-11 shooter has a reputation beyond reputeP-11 shooter has a reputation beyond reputeP-11 shooter has a reputation beyond reputeP-11 shooter has a reputation beyond reputeP-11 shooter has a reputation beyond reputeP-11 shooter has a reputation beyond reputeP-11 shooter has a reputation beyond reputeP-11 shooter has a reputation beyond reputeP-11 shooter has a reputation beyond reputeP-11 shooter has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: WHATS THE LEGAL SIZE OF A ROAD

I don't know.


P-11getsoutaflashlightandtapemeasurerSHOOTER
__________________
ATOMIC DOG HOLSTERS
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old October 21st, 2008, 12:07 AM
4XLT's Avatar
Super Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location:
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
(Dauphin County)
Posts: 935
Rep Power: 594
4XLT has a reputation beyond repute4XLT has a reputation beyond repute4XLT has a reputation beyond repute4XLT has a reputation beyond repute4XLT has a reputation beyond repute4XLT has a reputation beyond repute4XLT has a reputation beyond repute4XLT has a reputation beyond repute4XLT has a reputation beyond repute4XLT has a reputation beyond repute4XLT has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: WHATS THE LEGAL SIZE OF A ROAD

i think a normal road is supposed to be 12 ft wide
__________________
Tigers love pepper, they don't like cinnamon !
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old October 21st, 2008, 01:37 AM
US Militiaman's Avatar
Active Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location:
Nazareth, Pennsylvania
(Northampton County)
Age: 28
Posts: 200
Rep Power: 94
US Militiaman has a reputation beyond reputeUS Militiaman has a reputation beyond reputeUS Militiaman has a reputation beyond reputeUS Militiaman has a reputation beyond reputeUS Militiaman has a reputation beyond reputeUS Militiaman has a reputation beyond reputeUS Militiaman has a reputation beyond reputeUS Militiaman has a reputation beyond reputeUS Militiaman has a reputation beyond reputeUS Militiaman has a reputation beyond reputeUS Militiaman has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to US Militiaman
Default Re: WHATS THE LEGAL SIZE OF A ROAD

Normal road per ideal design is 12' wide per lane...this can be cut down to 10' though (which is very noticeable to drivers), and could be due to a required amount of shoulder or who knows what...
__________________
And don't think you're off the hook, voters, you're the ones who made this bed. Now you're the ones who are going to have to move over so a gay couple can sleep in it. Tomorrow you're all going to wake up in a brave new world, a world where the Constitution gets trampled by an army of terrorist clones, created in a stem-cell research lab run by homosexual doctors who sterilize their instruments over burning American flags. -- Stephen Colbert
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old October 21st, 2008, 06:13 AM
Exbiker's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location:
Pocono`s, Pennsylvania
(Monroe County)
Posts: 3,143
Rep Power: 378511
Exbiker has a reputation beyond reputeExbiker has a reputation beyond reputeExbiker has a reputation beyond reputeExbiker has a reputation beyond reputeExbiker has a reputation beyond reputeExbiker has a reputation beyond reputeExbiker has a reputation beyond reputeExbiker has a reputation beyond reputeExbiker has a reputation beyond reputeExbiker has a reputation beyond reputeExbiker has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: WHATS THE LEGAL SIZE OF A ROAD

Is that road a township or state road? We just repainted the lines on most of our township roads and the state said we had to use double lines not single. Not only did we spend more money because of that but it made the lanes appear to lose a half a foot.
__________________
"Man is not free unless government is limited." - Ronald Reagan
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old October 21st, 2008, 06:26 AM
bogey1's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location:
next to my neighbor, Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,838
Rep Power: 799396
bogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: WHATS THE LEGAL SIZE OF A ROAD

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exbiker View Post
Is that road a township or state road? We just repainted the lines on most of our township roads and the state said we had to use double lines not single. Not only did we spend more money because of that but it made the lanes appear to lose a half a foot.
its a state road. i think the company that painted the lines were sniffing the fumes that day.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old October 21st, 2008, 10:25 AM
jstizy's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location:
Columbia, Pennsylvania
(Lancaster County)
Age: 28
Posts: 39
Rep Power: 0
jstizy has a spectacular aura aboutjstizy has a spectacular aura about
Default Re: WHATS THE LEGAL SIZE OF A ROAD

The traffic volume of a roadway determines the width. I work for a transportation engineering firm so i deal with this stuff everyday! what state road is it?
__________________

Ignorance is the condition of being uninformed or uneducated, lacking knowledge or information.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old October 21st, 2008, 01:08 PM
bogey1's Avatar
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location:
next to my neighbor, Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,838
Rep Power: 799396
bogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond reputebogey1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: WHATS THE LEGAL SIZE OF A ROAD

Quote:
Originally Posted by jstizy View Post
The traffic volume of a roadway determines the width. I work for a transportation engineering firm so i deal with this stuff everyday! what state road is it?
springfield rd in springfield township. its very narrow from the sleepy hollow deli on up about a quarter mile (going towards bishop ave)
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old October 21st, 2008, 02:13 PM
knight0334's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location:
Brookville, Pennsylvania
(Jefferson County)
Age: 42
Posts: 15,543
Rep Power: 848102
knight0334 has a reputation beyond reputeknight0334 has a reputation beyond reputeknight0334 has a reputation beyond reputeknight0334 has a reputation beyond reputeknight0334 has a reputation beyond reputeknight0334 has a reputation beyond reputeknight0334 has a reputation beyond reputeknight0334 has a reputation beyond reputeknight0334 has a reputation beyond reputeknight0334 has a reputation beyond reputeknight0334 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via ICQ to knight0334 Send a message via AIM to knight0334 Send a message via MSN to knight0334 Send a message via Yahoo to knight0334
Default Re: WHATS THE LEGAL SIZE OF A ROAD

It depends on way too many things. When it was obtained, under what act it was obtained, how much the landowners would give, etc, etc.


You will have to call the maintainer of the road (PennDOT, township or municipality) to find out. For PennDOT you will have to give them the County, Municipality, State Route number, Segment number and offset footage.

State Right of Ways in PA vary from 8ft to hundreds of feet wide. Some of the (pre)colonial right of ways are only 16.5ft, 20ft, 25ft or 33ft wide. Right of ways obtained from the late 1850's to mid 1900's are generally 33ft to 50ft wide.

Most township right of ways are 33ft wide. City/borough RoW widths generally run from 16.6" for alleys to 25-50ft wide for roads.

Typically the pavement or improved surface is centered within the right of way, but sometimes there are variances and center offsets. Despite how wide the pavement or improved surface is, the entire width of the right of way is the "road".

Typical "lane" widths start at 8ft wide, but generally hover around 10 to 12ft wide.

I have seen pavements wider than the legal public right of way - Warrens Mill Rd, Greenville Township, Somerset Co is one of them.

Last edited by knight0334; October 21st, 2008 at 02:16 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Whats' the law on my PA CCW if... fep413 General 1 April 25th, 2008 06:47 PM
Whats going on in Pa? stk General 1 February 20th, 2008 03:23 PM
Whats with the Solicitations? bradjc72 General 3 December 17th, 2007 01:15 PM
Whats That????? Mtbkski General 1 March 16th, 2007 09:51 AM
HK .45 full size whats it worth? fultonCoShooter General 1 January 14th, 2007 12:07 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Marketing Services provided by MergeMedia.
Local gun shops | Local shooting ranges | Philadelphia Shooting Ranges | Philadelphia Gun Shops | Pittsburgh Shooting Ranges | Pittsburgh Gun Shops