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HB80 (Formerly HB 1243, Preemption Law Changes) Is Off to the Governor for Signature!

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Default HB 1845 Passed the House and Senate today.

Now we just need Fast Eddy to make it so.
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Default Re: HB 1845 Passed the House and Senate today.

woohoo!!

thanks very much to whitefeather, kim stolfer, etc. for their efforts to get this done.

and thanks to everyone who contacted their reps to help make it happen.

i predict fast eddie will sign it as it has been touted as a gun control bill by the antis...and the margin of it passing in the house was overwhelming (as in unanimous if i recall correctly...do you happen to know what the senate vote count was?) it would be politically difficult for him to not sign it, i think...i hope.
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Default Re: HB 1845 Passed the House and Senate today.

PARTY!!! Of course fat eddie could be a bit of a problem. Anyone know what the numbers look like? Could they override a veto?
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Default Re: HB 1845 Passed the House and Senate today.

the house voted *unanimously* to pass it the first go-round. and today they voted *unanimously* to accept the senate amendments.

i can't find the senate vote count, though.

but, yeah, it looks like the house at least could override a veto...but with that kind of bipartisan support, i don't see how fast eddie would not sign it as that would be politically bad for him.

here is a link to the legislature's web page on the bill.

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Default Re: HB 1845 Passed the House and Senate today.

actually, the senate voted *unanimously* for the bill as well...so fast eddie pretty much has to sign it.

here is another link to the history of the bill that shows the overall vote count:

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&bn=1845

senate: 50-0
house: 199-0

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actually, the senate voted *unanimously* for the bill as well...so fast eddie pretty much has to sign it.

here is another link to the history of the bill that shows the overall vote count:

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...type=B&bn=1845

senate: 50-0
house: 199-0

But how long does he have to sign it?
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But how long does he have to sign it?
i don't know, but this bill contains some other amendments that provide more punishment for actual criminals (without hurting us), so if he drags his feet, he is going to get lambasted by his fellow antis for being an obstacle to stopping "gun violence".
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Default Re: HB 1845 Passed the House and Senate today.

correction: this bill also contains the removal of the ability for DCNR To restrict our ability to carry... right?
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Default Re: HB 1845 Passed the House and Senate today.

House Bill 1845 originally dealt with increasing the penalties for removing or obliterating serial numbers on firearms. Pro-gun legislators amended it by adding critically important pro-gun amendments.



The amended House Bill 1845 passed the House and the Senate Judiciary Committee but has remained bogged down in the Senate Appropriations Committee where it will die and ALL of our hard work will be LOST unless you act quickly. It is important to point out that law enforcement supports this amended Senate version as does the PA District Attorney’s Association.






The pro-gun initiatives are included below:

Prohibits DNCR from undermining state law. (originally House Bill 1292)
This bill clarifies that the DCNR cannot continue to pass regulations that undermine state firearms laws. Without this legislation, the DCNR will continue to deny the lawful possession of firearms by concealed carry permit holders and off duty law enforcement officers in PA state parks.


Prohibits government from confiscating Firearms or Ammunition from Citizens during a disaster (such as happened to law abiding homeowners after the Katrina hurricane) (originally House Bill 1145)
This bill prohibits the Governor and other government officials from using an emergency as pretext to confiscate firearms, ammo or firearm accessories from citizens just when they need them.


There are currently no specific protections against this kind seizure of firearms in Pennsylvania law.


Provides for the emergency issue of a License To Carry Firearms (valid for 45 days) with a letter from law enforcement or a police report. (House Bill 1160 as amended by AO9226)
This bill authorizes the issuance of immediate temporary non-renewable concealed carry license to qualified individuals who are in imminent danger. This license will be issued, by the Sheriff in the County of residence, only after the individual provides evidence of imminent danger. As amended by AO9226, this bill has the support of the Pennsylvania District Attorneys Association. The PCADV (PA Coalition Against Domestic Violence) sent a letter to the Senate asking them to remove this amendment from the bill, citing the Kellerman Studies as justification. The PCADV forgot to mention that the Kellerman Studies were reviewed and discredited by the CDC (Centers for Disease Control) and the NAS (National Academy of Sciences).


Open Records. This will enable a citizen to challenge inaccurate criminal history records information if used to deny the purchase of a firearm (originally House Bill 1235).
Without this legislation, the procedure for appealing a denial is almost Soviet like in its unfairness. The state police do not have to tell you or your lawyer exactly why they have denied your application to purchase a firearm until the moment you appear in court to argue your case. By then it is too late for you and your lawyer to investigate the claims of the state police and prepare a defense.
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Default Re: HB 1845 Passed the House and Senate today.

Now if they'd just pass the National Park bill we'd have a Carry party on the Battlefield.
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