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My daughter is in 7th grade and was telling me about her day in school. She said the teacher asked her about the candidates and my daughter said she knew several answers, such as; who is McCain's VP pick, what state is she from, and if anyone knew what NRA stood for. I thought it was cool that she knew the answers because I didn't think she paid attention to me. Then my daughter said that the teacher said the NRA was for people that liked guns, like those who shoot people on the street.

I'm infuriated! I don't know the exact quote and I don't want to talk to her about it while angry so I just calmly told her that teachers were not supposed to be say stupid things like that. I left it at that because I didn't want my daughter to think I was mad and have her not share more information if I need it.

I want to definitely address this with the teacher but I want a sledge hammer from hell to fall on him. What is the best approach? Would this be strictly a school policy type of issue? Would schools see this as the teacher's right of free speech? If so, then it will just be me speaking with him. I would prefer to go over his head if there is nothing but a concerned parent complaint.

I figured I would post and cool off a while so I can respond rationally, tactically, and with mass devastation. LOL
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Default Re: Are schools allowed to do this?

Go to the school board. There's a difference between free speech and slander. I don't know the age group here, but talking about a group, who you as the parent may be a member of, as a group of people who like guns and shoot people on the street is completely unacceptable. The guy should be fired.
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Follow up with the teacher first, then address your complaint to the school board at their next meeting. This way, if it happens again, you can begin to publicly establish a pattern.
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My daughter is in 7th grade and was telling me about her day in school. She said the teacher asked her about the candidates and my daughter said she knew several answers, such as; who is McCain's VP pick, what state is she from, and if anyone knew what NRA stood for. I thought it was cool that she knew the answers because I didn't think she paid attention to me. Then my daughter said that the teacher said the NRA was for people that liked guns, like those who shoot people on the street.

I'm infuriated! I don't know the exact quote and I don't want to talk to her about it while angry so I just calmly told her that teachers were not supposed to be say stupid things like that. I left it at that because I didn't want my daughter to think I was mad and have her not share more information if I need it.

I want to definitely address this with the teacher but I want a sledge hammer from hell to fall on him. What is the best approach? Would this be strictly a school policy type of issue? Would schools see this as the teacher's right of free speech? If so, then it will just be me speaking with him. I would prefer to go over his head if there is nothing but a concerned parent complaint.

I figured I would post and cool off a while so I can respond rationally, tactically, and with mass devastation. LOL
I wonder how many children went home thinking their parents were gang bangers after that? Thats pretty much what the teacher said, "If you're parents own guns or are in the NRA they're criminals." I wouldnt even waste time on the teacher, id take it to the principal of the school, and regardless of whether that got it resolved, id be opening my mouth at the next school board meeting.
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Pector, please check your PM....

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i would most definitely take the time to set this douchebag straight. in a polite, professional manner, of course. what this teacher said was irresponsible, not to mention extremely inappropriate. their job is to teach, an offer insight and knowledge, not to dispense their own biases and prejudices.

i remember when i was a kid, i had teachers like that. one of them would refer to people of soetheast asian descent as gooks and slopes. i told my dad, who served in vietnam. this man, who probably had to kill a few southeast asians, came to school to kick the ass of that idiot teacher.

idiocy like this is part of the reason why my parents, both of whom were teahers, retired early. the public school system is full of cockjugglers like that, who open their mouths before they think, messing up our kids, and then wonder why they get no parental support.
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I wonder how many children went home thinking their parents were gang bangers after that? Thats pretty much what the teacher said, "If you're parents own guns or are in the NRA they're criminals." I wouldnt even waste time on the teacher, id take it to the principal of the school, and regardless of whether that got it resolved, id be opening my mouth at the next school board meeting.
My daughter knows better but you have a good point about the other kids.
Here is my daughter (shooting of course): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLAv8b6-sMA
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Double check and make sure that's what the teacher said. My grandson told us his health teacher said "if you hold in your feelings you'll commit suicide". Talk about being pissed as his mother did when he was two. But once we said we were going to school with him and then to the school board he changed his story and said thats not what she said it was "sometimes you have to express your feeling"
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Double check and make sure that's what the teacher said. My grandson told us his health teacher said "if you hold in your feelings you'll commit suicide". Talk about being pissed as his mother did when he was two. But once we said we were going to school with him and then to the school board he changed his story and said thats not what she said it was "sometimes you have to express your feeling"

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Double check and make sure that's what the teacher said. My grandson told us his health teacher said "if you hold in your feelings you'll commit suicide". Talk about being pissed as his mother did when he was two. But once we said we were going to school with him and then to the school board he changed his story and said thats not what she said it was "sometimes you have to express your feeling"
I agree Larry. That's why I mentioned letting it along until I can more casually discuss it with her. From her perspective, this is a new home room teacher so she would worry about the consequences should I stir things up. I will get the facts documented before proceding but again, good point!
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