It happened: I was forced to pull my firearm on someone for the first time

[TaePo]

Originally Posted by danp

I sincerely hope they do catch these kids, because eventually they are going to stalk someone who can't defend themselves. At that point we'll have another dead body like the guy who got beat to death in the subway and the college student who got shot in the neck for his iPod.

I still truly believe that for the average person not living in a drug infested neighborhood, this city is safe.

Not sure of the practicality of doing this but...

Can you trace your path to the bowling alley and the alley itself? Talk to the business managers and explain the situation and your concern. (maybe leave the gun part out)

The idea being to locate possible video tapes that may have been running that night that might show these people. So it would need to be done quickly before the tapes are recycled.

Just an idea. Sorry to hear of the scare but glad you were able to defend.

[LittleRedToyota]

Originally Posted by danp

The problem of getting your thumb jammed all the way down between your body and the gun, pulling up, and THEN finishing the process of wrapping your fingers around the rest of the grip is simply adding too many variables to an already unstable equation you can't afford to get wrong.

not sure what IWB holster you are using, but with my comp-tac c-tac, i can get a proper grip on the pistol while it is still in the holster.

if you decide you want to stick with IWB, you might want to try one out.

i have some other IWB holsters where i cannot get a proper grip while the gun is still in the holster and have to draw the way you describe. these holsters hold the grip of the gun right on top of the belt...and, thus, are better for concealment--my g17 literally disappears with them even when i bend over. however, the downside is exactly what you've described.

the c-tac, however, holds the grip up a good inch or so above my belt. this means the grip prints when i bend over, but it also means i can get a proper grip while the gun is still in the holster just as i can with my OWB holsters. it is still considerably more concealable than an OWB holster, though, because the whole muzzle sticking out beneath the t-shirt issue is eliminated.

at any rate, glad to hear everything worked out for you. nice job!

[knight0334]

bah.. shoulda just cap'd them all anyways. ..they are just future bandits/murderers/robbers/etc if they are going around tazing people.

[WellArmedLiberal]

as for the article in the phila inquirer? i would love to see it but, i have a feeling they wont run it. and if they do it will be butched up..

If well-written, it could be run as an Op-Ed piece. It would need to tie in to something newsy, like gun legislation or current issue. I can help you edit & submit. This is something I do.

On other points: I think the situation was handled flawlessly. Gun draw is always awkward under those circumstances. Cops aren't at fault here, IMHO. There's jerks in every city. I lived in NYC for like 20 years, never got mugged, despite attempts. Cops can't be everywhere, especially w trying to keep all the Dunkin Donuts covered too....

[SFMarine]

You probably scared the shit out of those teenagers. More than likely they'll strike again. Or maybe they won't. It's a tough call. It does appear that got a severe taste of their own medicine.

[P89]

Glad to hear your fine, lets hope it sinks in for these kids that they could be in a body bag today.
Enough can't be said for situational awareness.

[PA-Joe]

Aren't stun guns illegal in PA. Therefore, these teens were carrying an illegal concealed weapon and the police weren't concerned!!! So much for Nutter's Police Crackdown.

[PocketProtector]

Originally Posted by SFMarine

You probably scared the shit out of those teenagers. More than likely they'll strike again. Or maybe they won't. It's a tough call. It does appear that got a severe taste of their own medicine.

If I was a betting man, I'd put my $$$ on a sure thing.

[DaveM55]

Five feet from you holding a stun gun and activating it in a threatening manner would be grounds for a good shoot. Glad it didn't come to that!!!

Stun guns and Tasers are legal in Pa if used for legal purposes by private citizens. It only becomes a restricted item if used for unlawful or criminal means which these kids used it for.

I CC a SIG P239 in a Galco Summer Comfort IWB and can draw quite easily with it. It is a very good holster, however it does not have any retention.

[Arcana71]

Originally Posted by bogey1

as for the article in the phila inquirer? i would love to see it but, i have a feeling they wont run it. and if they do it will be butched up..

Man with Gun Disrupts Local Teen Party