Results of Dickson City RTK request - Polling of local business firearms policies

[gnbrotz]

This thread will list all info received from the Dickson City PD in response to my Right To Know request. The first packet I received today contained a cover letter from the Chief, a hand-written list of 95 businesses (most with a notation of their policy), and 18 letters or faxes from business stating their policies.

I have a few ideas for what we can actually do with this information, but the first task is making it available to everyone. I will hand-type the list here so it is searchable, and will scan and host (or find hosting for) the actual documents I've received. I'm going to keep the thread locked until I'm finished or at least very close, then we can discuss if we want to.

The list below is exactly what is written on a notepad (photocopied of course). I have noted anything that I am unsure of (spelllings, etc.) because of illegible handwriting.

During compilation I noticed that entries notes with "OK" and/or a star are those which have corresponding letters or faxes stating policy, with the exception of Spherion Staffing. It's also worth noting that several of the provided documents are copies of employee handbooks/policies, NOT an official corporate position on customers who are carrying in compliance with state law.

1. Tobacco Road, no weapons, will fax
2. Denny's, no weapons, will fax ("OK" is noted to the left of the number 2)(To date, this is the ONLY Dickson City business where a sign has been confirmed)
3. Pennstar Bank, will check & call me Tina ("OK" is noted to the left of the number 3)
4. Physicians Health Alliance no weapon policy, will fax
5. Wendy's, will fax no weapons on premises
6. Lowe's, would ask to leave will fax
7. Lazboy, chris, will check & fax us 1 way or the other
8. Sleepy's will fax us, no weapons letter
9. Pediatrics no weapons will fax
10. Ethan Allen, no weapons will fax (There is a horizontal scribble mark to the left of the number 10)
11. Dick's will mail it in, no weapons, allows open carry (There is a horizontal scribble mark to the left of the number 10)(Newspaper has printed a correction, stating that Dick's does not prohibit customers from carrying firearms.)
12. Basilio's Pizza will fax no weapons
13. Gertrude Hawk doesn't know will check & fax either way
14. Circuit City, no weapons will fax
15. Factory Card Outlet ? will check ("OK" and a star is noted to the left of the number 15)
16. Days Inn, no weapons, will fax ("OK" and a star is noted to the left of the number 16)
17. Idle Hour Lanes, no weapons, will fax
18. Sleepy Hollow, no weapons, will fax
19. Aqua Leisure Pools & Spa. no weapons will fax
20. St Tropez no weapons will fax
21. Design Home Gallery no weapons will fax
22. Woods & Co., no weapons, will fax ("OK" is noted to the left of the number 22)
23. AC Moore will check & fax ?
24. TJ Maxx will check & fax ?
25. Dollar Tree ? will check
26. Petsmart ? will check will fax 1 way or other ("OK" and a star is noted to the left of the number 26)(Provided documentation is from the employee handbook)
27. Border's will check & fax
28. Firestone will check & fax
29. Home Depot no weapons, will fax (corporate policy contradicting this found here, background info here)
30. Pier I Imports probably no weapons, will fax
31. Turkey Hill, no weapons, will fax
32. First Natl Comm Bank, 954 Main St, no weapons, will fax
33. Fast Signs, no weapons, will fax ("OK" is noted to the left of the number 33)
34. Broadway Dreams, no weapons, will fax
35. TCBY, ? will fax
36. Spherion Staffing, no weapons, will fax ("OK" is noted to the left of the number 36)
37. Cohen Orthodontics, no weapons will fax
38. Med + Uniforms & Scrubs ? will fax
39. Gallery of Sound ? will fax
40. Nye Jewelers ? no weap will fax
41. Jenny Craig, no weapons, will fax
42. Sprint ? will fax
43. HFC no weapons will fax
44. Pet Palace no weapons will fax ("OK" is noted to the left of the number 44)
45. Ruby Tuesday, most likely, no weapons, will check & fax
46. Perkins Rest, manager will check & call me
47. Viewmont Diner, no weapons, will fax ("OK" is noted to the left of the number 47)
48. Burger King, will check ...(illegible)
49. Long John Silvers no weapons, will fax ("OK" is noted to the left of the number 49)
50. McDonald's, ravine st., no weapons, will fax (Notice that the first letter mentions only employees, but the second one is modified to include "or customers". Also, additional supporting documents are employee policy and make no mention of customers)
51. Toys R Us, no weapons, will fax
52. Merle Norman Cosmetics, will check & fax ("OK" is noted to the left of the number 52)
53. Shiatsu Massage ? check with manager
54. Viewmont Medical, no weapons, will fax
55. JoAnn Fabrics, no weapons, will fax (contradicted by someone who asked in person, and posted the experience here)
56. Northeast Surgery will check, will fax
57. Allstate Ins Co., no weapons, will fax
58. McDonald's, Bell mt, no weapons, will fax (Notice that the first letter mentions only employees, but the second one is modified to include "or customers". Also, additional supporting documents are employee policy and make no mention of customers)
59. Petco, no weapon will fax
60. Don Pablo's most likely no, will fax
61. First Liberty Bank, no weapons, will fax ("OK" is noted to the left of the number 61)
62. Chuck E Cheese, no weapons, will fax
63. Harbor Freight, no weapons, will fax
64. China Palace, no weapons, will fax
65. Cartridge World will check, allows open carry (There is a horizontal scribble mark to the left of the number 65)
66. Party City no weapons, will fax
67. Leslie Pools no weapons, will fax
68. Wasserott's no weapons, will fax
69. Panera Bread, no weapons, will fax ("OK" is noted to the left of the number 69)
70. Red Robin no weapons, will fax
71. Walmart will check with corp & fax
72. Famous Footwear, christen (sp?) will check, will fax
73. Uno Pizza, Chicago Grill, no weapons, will fax, check with corporate
74. Kohl's ? will fax
75. Texas Roadhouse no weapons
76. Olive Garden, allows open carry allows open carry (There is a horizontal scribble mark to the left of the number 65)
77. Red Lobster, will check & fax
78. Marshall's - no 'official' word yet, but there is an eyewitness account of a DCPD officer making an inquiry.
79. Catherines Plus Sizes
80. Payless Shoe Source
81. Dots Fashions
82. Dress Barn
83. Sally Beauty Salon
84. Olympia
85. T-mobile, will check & fax
86. Target
87. Subway, will check & fax
88. Starbucks
89. Sleepy's
90. Michaels
91. A&G Outfitters
92. K & K Nails
93. Gamestop, will check & fax
94. Super Suppers, no weapons will fax ("OK" is noted to the left of the number 94)
95. Men's Wearhouse, probably not, will check & fax ("OK" is noted to the left of the number 95)(Provided documentation is from the employee handbook. Also, based on a specific customer experience, detailed in post #28 of this thread, this is not an established corporate policy that applies to customers.)
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[gnbrotz]

This post will be used to document carry experiences at businesses on the list since the Dickson City incident occurred.

OC without incident:

4. Physicians Health Alliance
6. Lowe's
14. Circuit City
23. AC Moore
25. Dollar Tree
26. Petsmart
27. Border's
29. Home Depot
47. Viewmont Diner
49. Long John Silver's
50. McDonald's (Ravine St.)
51. Toys R Us
63. Harbor Freight
66. Party City
71. Walmart
86. Target
87. Subway

Carrier personally informed of 'No Firearms' policy:

60. Don Pablo's

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[gnbrotz]

All information that I have received is now in the OP. Please let me know if any links don't work, etc.

[Montanya]

The crazy part is that some of these items linked are EMPLOYEE handbook excerpts indicating that employees are not permitted to have handguns on company property and mention nothing to do with customers.

[pahandgunner]

What they are doing has got to be against the law in some way. They are giving all of law enforcement a bad name.

[Evolution]

Hilarious. Employee handbook excerpts? seriously... wtf is wrong with this Police department? Or should I say town.

[JoeWilliams]

Originally Posted by jcheinaman

Hilarious. Employee handbook excerpts? seriously... wtf is wrong with this Police department? Or should I say town.

I think ya'll are underestimating the media savvy of the chief of thugs. Remember, he has already been able to use this information, however he twisted it, in the media to show that he has overwhelming support from the businesses, and that people carrying guns are rabble rousing troublemakers that are bad for business.

Propaganda is important.

[Damage control]

Boy I see this coming back and biting them in the ass!


DC

[ThomasJ]

Originally Posted by pahandgunner

What they are doing has got to be against the law in some way. They are giving all of law enforcement a bad name.

I don't see how it is. No offense, but that response is exactly the attitude that started this whole thing. "Men carrying guns openly??? What they are doing has got to be against the law in some way."