recommendations on a GOOD sniper rifle

[Sinatra]

What about a Mauser K98 with a nice scope?

[ROCKETRIDER]

Armalite AR-30 is another fine rifle. 308,300 WinMag, and 338 Lapua. Tikka makes a tactical model, as does CZ. Remingtons are also a good choice(700p 700 LTR.

[PossumBackstrap]

Savage Model 12F/TR

[King 5.45]

Originally Posted by synergy

To piggy-back on what's already been said...I'd stay away from the magnum cartridges for now.

Shooting those hot fast rounds is good...once you've got everything figured out. You pay a price to shoot those rounds. Your barrels don't last as long, the recoil is more severe, and your wallet will take a hit.

I'd learn to pull the trigger on a rimfire, then learn windage and ranging with the .308. It'll shoot 1k with the right person behind the trigger.

I'd get a .308 Remington 700...the best glass you can afford, then spend the rest on training classes and ammo.

Don't stint on the mounts. It makes no sense to put good glass on cheap mounts.

[King 5.45]

Originally Posted by Sinatra

What about a Mauser K98 with a nice scope?

Since we're talking about military applications of precision weapons in what has to be an entirely hypothetical context, let's consider this, for shitzengiggles:

The Mauser banner tower mounts are nice and all, but you're begging to get bagged by a counter sniper with that scope up as high as it is. If you want to run a COMBLOC scope cammed for 8MM, fine, but why not do so a little more safely?

Check this out: http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews2...ings/index.asp

Of course, you can get any AK side mount with a Weaver top to go on there, so you don't have to be limited to Soviet optics.

[MTechnik]

now, for 200-400 yards why not a round like .204 ruger or even .223? Those should be fine at those distances. 6.5 grendel if you really want to get fancy. No need for the big rounds - .223 is cheaper and you can shoot more in a day with less noise annoyance.

As always, the quality of the ammo is as important as the quality of the rifle and scope. I've seen friends get $1500 rifles, then put the cheapest ammo they can get through it and wonder why it doesn't shoot well.

[Lycanthrope]

Well, he's planning on shooting animals. .204 will be too small for deer and many think .223 is not adequate. The Grendel is rarely found in a bolt gun, but is an excellent substitute for the .308 (and perhaps better).

And to add...most decent hunting bolt rifles will kick the snot out of an old milsurp..."sniper" version or not.

OK....let's recap...he wants to shoot paper and animals. For varmints the .223 would be best at his ranges on a budget. Otherwise, whatever caliber floats the boat.

For deer, he really needs 6mm/.243 a a minimum. Bolt guns to hunt with and get best accuracy.

[MTechnik]

Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

Well, he's planning on shooting animals. .204 will be too small for deer and many think .223 is not adequate. The Grendel is rarely found in a bolt gun, but is an excellent substitute for the .308 (and perhaps better).

And to add...most decent hunting bolt rifles will kick the snot out of an old milsurp..."sniper" version or not.

OK....let's recap...he wants to shoot paper and animals. For varmints the .223 would be best at his ranges on a budget. Otherwise, whatever caliber floats the boat.

For deer, he really needs 6mm/.243 a a minimum. Bolt guns to hunt with and get best accuracy.

and just to be argumentative, I present a nice rifle. But I think grendel is impractical unless you're willing to reload - the beauty of .308 and .223 is that great off-the-shelf match ammo for those two.

I missed the bit about hunting animals - yeah, if he's doing deer and wants to go far downrange .308 is a great place to start. If yer talking cotoyes... 223 could be great.

[cms81586]

If you want a nice rifle look at the Sako TRG's. Check out www.snipershide.com for alot of good forum info. I bought my TRG-22 about a year and a half ago and put a Leupold Vari-x III LR/M3 3.5-10x40 scope on it, Badger Rings, a Near Mfg. base, a factory bipod, factory muzzle brake and a spare 10rnd mag. I have alot of money tied up into it but it's a shooter and it's military grade. The Finns use them along with many other units and agencies. I've used mine for groundhog successfully out to 500yds and make hits on a 5"x5" steel swinger at 560 yds every shot. You'll but some cash down for one but they're still a little cheaper than Accuracy International AWP's.









Here's a typical 100yd five shot group:





I haven't taken her out past 700 yds so I'm looking forward to getting to a 1K range. I'm also hoping to get a can for it soon.

CMS

[6.5x284]

Try a 6.5X284 win. on a Rem. 700 long action. There are many barrel companies that make barrels for this round. Hart in Nescopeck PA is a good one. The brass can be bought from Midway and is made by a couple of different companies. Bullets in the 140 gr. range seem to be the most popular. Berger and Lapua make very good bullets for this round. I also seen that Savage is chambering a 6.5x284 if you want to save some money. I think they are around 1000--1200 dollars. Whatever you get mount a high end 30mm. scope on it.