I have now officially been harassed by the PSP

[Jailkeeper]

Originally Posted by pirateron

I agree. In Emsworth, which uses hired guns from Ohio Township to police the area, I was told by an officer that "laws don't apply to police." No shit, Just in casual conversation, i asked an officer about his fellow officers speeding down my road, and putting on their lights just to go through a red light, then turning them off again. His reply, "laws don't apply to police." I told the chief what his officer said and he laughed and said, "yeah, that's right." Is it any wonder, with attitudes like that, that they don't hesitate to overstep their authority?

That is a point I have been trying to make for YEARS. The PSP are an arrogant group. Laws do not apply to them. They laugh, drink, and let their arrogance lead their lives.

Years ago I saw an ambulance on 22 west of Altoona with its lights & siren on. Running cars off the road and ignoring any & all safety rules. Minutes later I saw the ambulance turn its lights off and pull in to a pizza shop. I have always wondered how the people in the ambulance would have felt had someone actually been hurt during their antics.

[Defender]

I am outraged at incidents like this. We are law abiding firearms owners and carry our weapons in a legal manner. As citizens we should be treated with respect by the LEO community. This type of thing is really starting to PISS ME OFF! These type of incidents should be responded to agressively by us in the appropiate legal forum. I wish you luck good sir.

[Defender]

Originally Posted by jon'76

Your incident + Mine + PA Patriots makes it seem like someone somewhere has given word to crack down.

Oh yeah! You just know the PSP are probably monitoring here.

[pirateron]

Originally Posted by Jailkeeper

That is a point I have been trying to make for YEARS. The PSP are an arrogant group. Laws do not apply to them. They laugh, drink, and let their arrogance lead their lives.

Years ago I saw an ambulance on 22 west of Altoona with its lights & siren on. Running cars off the road and ignoring any & all safety rules. Minutes later I saw the ambulance turn its lights off and pull in to a pizza shop. I have always wondered how the people in the ambulance would have felt had someone actually been hurt during their antics.

Here, the police are in a hurry to gather at the BP at the end of the street. They must brew fresh coffee at a certain time.

[orangehole]

Originally Posted by Jailkeeper

That is a point I have been trying to make for YEARS. The PSP are an arrogant group. Laws do not apply to them.

I do not mean to bash LEO but this is the case for almost all LEO. I have a friend who is LEO. He will drive his motorcycle 100+ mph and when pulled over just shows a badge and continues back to 100mph. Unless a police officer is truely dirty, they are and will continue to operate with impunity. Law enforcement is a tight group and usually will not turn on a fellow officer.

[Ghost001]

You guys and your guns...


I just don't know why you have to flaunt them!


I mean come on...cops have a hard job the way it is!

[RandomTask]

Originally Posted by orangehole

I do not mean to bash LEO but this is the case for almost all LEO. I have a friend who is LEO. He will drive his motorcycle 100+ mph and when pulled over just shows a badge and continues back to 100mph.

Yup; I knew a LEO who used to brag about the fact that his motorcycle wasn't inspected or insured.

[mjfletcher]

Originally Posted by Steve in PA

Sounds like someone wound a little too tight.

I went over the OC/CC thing last week when I qualified my department. We talked about the OCB incident and the running of serial numbers on stops.

The statement/question I posed was; since OC/CC is legal in PA, why are you running the serial numbers of a handgun say, during a traffic stop? One or two answered, to check if it is stolen. Citing Commonwealth v. Hawkins, I asked them to explain their actions because they have no reason to believe the gun was stolen.

Disarming the person for officer safety was mentioned which is usually the reason the officer ends up with the handgun. Some said, well since I have the handgun (for officer safety) I might as well run the serial number.

After all the discussions were over I think a few more officers have been made aware of the gun laws of PA.

Alright officer, just what do you think you're doing providing proper training in PA firearms laws to other officers? Shame shame shame. What will the DCPD think when they learn that other departments are failing to follow their exemplary lead?

Seriously though, Rep'd ya for your efforts. Keep up the good work.

[mjfletcher]

Originally Posted by PennsyPlinker

Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!

I used to say "its not a question of whether or not you're paranoid, its a question of whether you're paranoid enough"

[Jailkeeper]

Originally Posted by orangehole

I do not mean to bash LEO but this is the case for almost all LEO. I have a friend who is LEO. He will drive his motorcycle 100+ mph and when pulled over just shows a badge and continues back to 100mph. Unless a police officer is truely dirty, they are and will continue to operate with impunity. Law enforcement is a tight group and usually will not turn on a fellow officer.

I am in no way trying to start a personal attack on any single PSP. On the other hand I know what you are talking about. They laugh about how fast they can get to Florida for vacation, stating that they will "flash my badge" if they get stopped. Hell, even their wives laugh about what they can get away with.

I have a friend who is a deputy sheriff in a neighboring county. He always swore he would never use his badge to get out of anything. I was with him the day he got stopped for speeding and he damn near shoved his badge down the officer's throat! Oh, yes. The officer left him go.