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[noofus]

Originally Posted by panther76

Great advice, agree completely about the surefire.

Why not? You never need a gun until you don't have one.

Because I have spent 17 years of my life training for personal defense with open hands, knives and other weapons, but no guns. I feel I can better defend myself with a knife than I can with a gun simply because I have trained extensivly for it. Also there are plenty of cases where I just cant carry a gun (at work) and I cant leave it in my car (convertible...too easy to cut the top open and steal stuff).

I'm not a lawyer, but in PA you run a serious risk of being charged with having a concealed weapon for carrying and brandishing a knife, depending on the knife, regardless of whether you have a LTCF or not. In some states the permit is a CCW permit that covers other things than just a firearm, in PA it DOES NOT.

Technically I dont conceal my knife. It is clipped to my pocket visibly. In any case it is not illegal to carry a knife in PA as far as I can tell by the (ambiguous) laws. I also did not say brandish. Bad idea to brandish any weapon - and not because its illegal but because its a tactically bad position to be in. When the decision is made to deploy the knife its going to happen behind me. Preferably in conjunction with yelling "BACK UP NOW" such that the sound of the mechanism opening is masked. Nothing is "brandished" and the guy wouldnt know I had a knife in my hand until the edge hits him.

As for being too close, I assumed this was already part of the scenario - IE you walk through the parking lot and come across the perp when you are already close to your car (15-20') - if I am too far for the light then I would probably stay backed off the situation and call the cops. No need to gen involved with a guy with a knife unless you are too close to back out.

[Buckmark.35]

Originally Posted by Emptymag

My head may explode today.

Yep. I think today may be the day.

ROFL. We'll have to get another moderator in here to clean up the mess.

[JoeWilliams]

You are in Wawa late at night, bent over getting some chips in the back of the store, when you hear somebody yelling up front. You look up, see somebody pointing a gun at the cashier. What to do, what to do?

[rwilson452]

The first thing I'm going to do is seek cover, then reevaluate.

Originally Posted by JoeWilliams

You are in Wawa late at night, bent over getting some chips in the back of the store, when you hear somebody yelling up front. You look up, see somebody pointing a gun at the cashier. What to do, what to do?

[reels18]

How about sneaking out the back door? They are alarmed. It is not the manliest thing to do, but probably the safest.

[PA CERTIFIED AGENT]

How about your at a public pool hall and a fight breaks out. Chairs, pool sticks, and bottles are flying. You head towards the door and some one looks dead at you with a bottle in his hand and raises his hand to hit u in the head with it. What do you do.

[PA CERTIFIED AGENT]

If i can get to the back door then thats my way out. if i cant then i would have to get on my cell and call 911.

[noofus]

Originally Posted by Buckmark.35

ROFL. We'll have to get another moderator in here to clean up the mess.

Sorry - did I say something wrong? Appologies if I did, I am new around here.

[JoeWilliams]

Originally Posted by reels18

If you can hit him with a small flashlight, you let him get too close. snip

I don't think he meant hit as in "physically strike." I read it to mean "zap him with the painfully bright beam of light."

[noofus]

Originally Posted by JoeWilliams

I don't think he meant hit as in "physically strike." I read it to mean "zap him with the painfully bright beam of light."

Yes - exactly. Ive gotten the surefire to the face before in a darkened room at 20'. It sucks.