Pa. House considers making owners report lost, stolen handguns 3/17/08

[jkp1187]

Originally Posted by larrymeyer

I knew what you were saying I was just being a smart ass or maybe just an ass since I'm not all that smart

Better a smart ass than a dumb f*ck....

@piste: you might want to check to see if there have been any amendments proposed....

[I'm armed]

Levdansky's amendment failed!!!

75 yeas
105 nos

There's more amendments being voted on right now. It is on PCN.

[gnbrotz]

Originally Posted by I'm armed

Levdansky's amendment failed!!!

75 yeas
105 nos

There's more amendments being voted on right now. It is on PCN.

I lost PCN years ago when I went to DirectTV. On a whim, I googled PCN and found you can see it streaming on the net. Can't believe I didn't think of it sooner, and thought I'd mention it in case anyone else is interested.

[gnbrotz]

Wow! I can't believe (but sadly, not really) how much some of these representatives don't understand existing law.

Rep. Metcalfe has a proposed amendment to expedite the issue of a LTCF to someone who has credible evidence of being in immediate danger. The reps from Philly can't believe that the "45-day waiting period" would be brushed aside to allow someone to immediately obtain a LTCF upon passing PICS.

One other thing that annoys me is that Rep. Metcalfe keeps referring to a "carry concealed permit". I know he's one of the really good guys and fights hard for us, but geez, use the right terms for crying out loud!

[larrymeyer]

It passed the house today with no one voting no on it

[I'm armed]

Other amendments:


An amendment to extend the expiration date on an expired LTCF of deployed military people an extra 90 days once they are home.

Yea 203
Nos 0
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A06414 introduced by Rep. Godshall

had to do with firearm transfers for law enforcement agencies (ex. when a police dept. purchases new handguns for officers, the manufacturer or gun shop doesn't have to fill out the individual point of sale for each gun) Conforms to federal law.

yeas 202
nos 0
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A06415 introduced by Rep. O'Neil

to clarify on court case Commonwealth of PA vs. Baxter
????something about making false statements on PA form when you're buying a gun

yeas 202
nos 0

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A06465 introduced by Rep. O'Brien

extends the time for prosecution of illegal and straw purchases

Yeas 202
Nos 0
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A06467 introduced by Rep. Fairchild

to not allow state and local gov'ts to confiscate firearms of law-abiding citizens who are not committing a crime in the wake of a state of emergency

yeas 180
nos 22
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A05131 "Castle Doctrine" was withdrew by Rep. Capelli...there's some kind of agreement with Rep. DeWeese...seems like it is supposed to be introduced later as it's own bill... We really need the Castle Doctrine here!!!
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A06378 introduced by Rep. Adolph

Increases the statue of limitations from 2 years to 5 years on certain gun offenses

yeas 202
nos 0
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A06348 introduced by Rep. Metcalfe.

yeas 147
nos 55
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A06542 introduced by Rep. Godshall

for the PSP to maintain a registry of voluntarily reported lost or stolen firearms for 20 years

yeas 202
nos 0
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A06547 introduced by Rep. Staback

to allow current LTCF permit holders to carry while in a state park

yeas 197
nos 5

[Pat T]

Thanks for the breakdown of what's doing on with this, I'm Armed, if you don't mind, what was the synopsis of the Metcalfe amendment A06348? I either didn't see it or missed it. Looks like it's up for third consideration and final vote on the whole thing tomorrow according to the house calendar. Doesn't seem like we got much out of this if the Castle Doctrine amendment got pulled. I was really hoping for the civil liability to be eliminated in a justifiable shooting.

[I'm armed]

Roll call lists on the amendments can be found here. They are towards the bottom. http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/...dte=04/01/2008

The Metcalfe amendment basically would fast-track the LTCF application process for someone who is in documented imminent danger.

Does anyone know what happened to the amendment that would allow valid LTCF holders to skip the instant checks when buying a gun? I didn't see that one come up.

Rep. Harper also introduced an amendment. I completely missed that part.

[piste]

Great job supplying all that great info guys. I believe it's essential for all of us to be informed on facts/status of legislation all around....which the PA legislation web site isn't the best at clearly providing..but at least it's there. IMO in many threads/posts there's way too many folks blowing smoke out their @ss and getting their panties in a bunch over legislation without having any clue of the facts.

BTW...pretty nice that they passed the LTCF allowed in state parks....

[normanvin]

Thanks for the update....