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how do ya find out all that info may i ask?
There are databases for that stuff..ARIN etc.

That looks like a standard whois lookup or the kind that network solutions pumps out.
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MMC is legit. They've been manufacturing pistol sights for a long time. There may be a legitimate reason for the delay.
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A delay in receiving the sights is not a problem. Its when my money is taken and MMC hides and doesn't deliver the goods. The Invoice requests that if you don't recieve the sights within 10 days to call. I followed that direction and called on four different days over a weeks time with out a response. I then sent three emails requesting the status of the order NO 73370. I did not receive a single response. I called three more times and finally reached a person who said that she would call me back with an answer the next day. She called the next day said she couldn't get an answer and said she would try again and call me the next day. Well over a week shas gone by and no response. I emailed the company 3 more times to sales, info, and tec each time the email was returned. I then checked my order and the order was wiped out of the site. Then I viewed the product and learned that the Taurus 1911 Sights were listed as not available. I ordered the sights on 2/6, my money was transferred to MMC on 2/8 its now 3/7 and no one has contacted me or emailed me about the status of my order after numerious inquiries.


If I hade a reasonable explaination I could wait but to be ignored and my money not returned in my opinioin is a scam.

I'm sorry but my experience with MMC Sights is contrary to your representation that they are ligitimate as ligitimate business people resolve issues and communicate not take your money and hide. It been 30 days without an answer

By the end of the month MMC will be p blogged all over the internet and Mr. McCarrick will have a new reputation that he built himself.

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hey pistolenvoy I can totally understand! I bought a knife on ebay with the buy it now feature, well long story short.......like 3 weeks short the seller finally sent me a email back here is what he said

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Hello, my apologies for the automated reply but our emails are coming in at an overwhelming rate, so it is impossible for us to reply to all of them right now. We have had some issues with shipping lately and believe us we are doing everything we can to correct the problem. If you can just give us a couple of days to get things straightened out we would appreciate it.

Your questions are important to us so feel free to reply back and we will respond as soon as possible. If you are waiting on your item please respond back with what it is and when you ordered and we will check into it as soon as possible. If you are waiting on a refund, we are working through those as well and thank you for your patience.

If you have a question of a different nature please feel free to ask again and we will answer as soon as possible.

We appreciate everyone’s patience and thank you for your business. We will get everything taken care of and back on track!
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Then after that i sent a email saying that i had emailed him before i bought it and ask if it was in stock. He said it was in stock.

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Dear Customer, I am very sorry to report that we have closed down our business and will no longer be operating on eBay. We fell way too far behind with our financial obligations and with the new outrageous eBay fee increases we have been losing money at an alarming rate. It is not our intent nor would ever be our intent to lie to anyone or commit fraud by taking your money and that is why we have always used PayPal, so our buyers are protected. Obviously because of our financial situation we will not be able to refund every person that has not received their item. Instead the customer will need to file a PayPal Dispute (please do not file an eBay dispute for they will not give your money back… that is PayPal’s protection not eBays) and PayPal will investigate each case and if I do not have a tracking number available I will let them refund your account.

I apologize that my business has to end this way but unfortunately we were just going in the hole too fast and we need to cut our losses now while we still can. We wish all our buyer’s the best of luck in their future endeavors on eBay. If you do have any questions you can email us but we really need to leave it up to PayPal to handle the disputes for their will be a fairly large amount of them and we cannot personally tend to them. If you do need to contact us please use the eBay message service and not our personal email.

Note that some items have been shipped and could be in route so it would be appreciated if buyers could wait up to a week to start opening the disputes. Thank you for your patience and we did appreciate your business. Thank you for your understanding and good luck on eBay.
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So now i have to wait another 30 days for paypal so i get my money back

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Hey your story is better than mine at lease you received a reply. My bank is reversing the payment so my money will be back in a week or so I am told. For now I'll stick to PayPal sights and check out the Seller before I put my card on the table. Have a good evening. I'm tucking in.
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If the company is the same as the old Miniature Machine Corp it should be good. Maybe...hopefully...they're just dragging their feet. I have bought several sets of adjustable sights from MMC, some years ago, and always liked their service. I am sure the possibility exists that MMC went under and some fly by night bunch is using their old name.
A site I have used lately is Lone Wolf Distributors for tritium sights.
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MMC Sight dropped under the radar and is now invisable and silent. MMC Sight is related to several web entities all linked to the parent company MMC. Business may have turned bad and the management decided to scam the public. I reported them to the Feds and to the Las Vegas police as a scam hopefully this will shut the website down.Thanks for the referral of Wolf. I'll give them a try.

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