Gary Young Crawford County - Another improper LTCF revocation?

[gnbrotz]

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In unusual move, firearm permit revoked

By Keith Gushard

A Guys Mills man has lost his permit to carry a concealed firearm under a stipulation in state law that hasn’t been invoked in Crawford County for the last 16 years, if ever.

Former Crawford Central School District teacher and U.S. Marine Corps veteran Gary Young says he will appeal Sheriff Walter (Nick) Hoke’s decision to revoke his permit.

Last week, Young received a certified letter from the Crawford County Sheriff’s Office stating his license to carry a concealed firearm had been revoked and he had five days to turn in his permit.

“The Sheriff of Crawford County, Pennsylvania, has determined that your character and reputation is such that you would be likely to act in a manner dangerous to the public,” the letter from Sheriff Hoke read.

Young still is allowed to own guns, but can’t carry a concealed weapon without the permit.

“Nobody has told me why,” Young said after he gave up the concealed firearm permit Tuesday at the sheriff’s office at the courthouse. “Nothing has been said. I want to know who my accusers are.”

Sheriff Hoke said, “I’m not able to discuss the matter.”

Young said he’s had the permit for seven years and he has never been arrested nor has he been charged with any crime.

Young said the revocation may stem from trying to help his son in a custody case involving Young’s grandson. That case has been going on since at least 2006.

Since taking office in January, Hoke hasn’t revoked any permits.

Bob Stevens, who served as Crawford County’s sheriff for 16 years before Hoke, said he never invoked the clause cited by Hoke about persons being a danger to the public.

In his 16 years as sheriff he had revoked about a dozen permits due to misconduct by a person, Stevens said.

Stevens said he remembers revoking the permit of a man who was arrested for drunken driving who had two loaded guns in his vehicle. Stevens said he also revoked the permit of a man who had a complaint with a store over the purchase of an appliance. The man had a gun in his waistband and pulled his coat back to show the clerk the weapon.

Young said he’s never used the gun to intimidate persons.

“I’ve followed all the rules,” he said.

Young does have the right to appeal the revocation to Crawford County Court of Common Pleas and plans an appeal.

Keith Gushard can be reached at 724-6370 or by e-mail at kgushard@meadvilletribune.com.

[Pa. Patriot]

Sounds improper.
Curious to hear what the sheriff based this on.

[knight0334]

My opinion is open until more facts are made public.

Who knows what may or may not have happened to cause the Sheriff to revoke the license.

Things swing both ways, licenses are revoke for no lawful reason at times, and also because someone actually did do something but "has no memory" of the event.

[Pa. Patriot]

Originally Posted by knight0334

My opinion is open until more facts are made public.

Who knows what may or may not have happened to cause the Sheriff to revoke the license.

Things swing both ways, licenses are revoke for no lawful reason at times, and also because someone actually did do something but "has no memory" of the event.

Exactly, awaiting more info and for the individual to come forward and plead his case.

If it was an improper revocation, I hope it was over OC.... Gorilla hungry.

[4XLT]

you would think they would have to let you know what exactly you have done... wouldnt you ???

[DaveM55]

Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot

.... Gorilla hungry.

Here ya go.

[bogey1]

can you still carry open if your ccp is revoked?

[Pa. Patriot]

Originally Posted by 4XLT

you would think they would have to let you know what exactly you have done... wouldnt you ???

ss6109

... A license to carry
firearms shall be revoked by the issuing authority for any
reason stated in subsection (e)(1) which occurs during the term
of the permit. Notice of revocation shall be in writing and
shall state the specific reason for revocation.

The way I'm reading it, it doesn't require specifying what you did to meet the listed "reasons".

[Philadelphia]

Well, while we're waiting to find out the reason, how about another case discussed in the article.

LTCF revocation because you get stopped for DUI and have guns in the car. Not in your hand. Not even on your hip. In the car. That's now a sign that you're likely to be dangerous to the public with a gun?

If a drunk uses bad judgement in the actual use of a gun, they go to jail same as anyone else. Any form of "prior restraint" assuming bad things "might" happen even when they don't is exactly how people justify banning guns altogether.

[Pa. Patriot]

Originally Posted by bogey1

can you still carry open if your ccp is revoked?

Yep.

LTCF allows you concealed carry and carry in a vehicle throughout the commonwealth. Also CC and OC in Phila or during a declared state of emergency.

Any other circumstance you can OC