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Old February 12th, 2008
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Post Gun buy-backs... What a scam! What a deal!

After reading about the Oakland gun "buy-back" that happened a day or two ago, I can't help but wonder how people can actually believe this to be sound policy?

How can any logical American think that buying "criminals" potentially stolen guns back with no recourse at an inflated premium could ever make a dent in crime?

Here are some reasons why gun buy-backs are stupid.

#1. They use tax payer money.

#2. Every time a gun buy-back is planned, gun enthusiasts run out to their favorite pawn shop to buy a Lorcin or a Raven Arms MP25, Jiminez, etc. for $40, then turn it around no-questions-asked at a state run buy-back for $250. That sure is wise spending of tax payer money, wouldn't you say?

#3. Working criminals treat their firearm as they would a secretary's phone or a lawyer's copying machine. They don't just "up and sell" things that are vital to their trade, especially for a considerably trivial amount of money (at least to a coke dealer or strong-armed robber).

#4. Every minute a gun buy-back is purchasing firearms, gun stores around the country are selling ten times that many guns to civilians. If guns were banned, yes it would make sense to buy up firearms to get them off the street. Thank god that is not the case. Using the same logic, the government could pay criminals to turn in their bolt cutters, etc etc.

#5. Gun "Buy-backs" imply that the guns were previously owned by the state.

#6. Gives criminals an easy dumping ground for firearms used in crimes. Gun buy-backs use no-questions-asked policy to lure criminals in, but no enforcement exists to arrest those that have turned in murder weapons, etc.


I know I'll be keeping my ear to the ground for the next buy-back. How about ya'll?
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I know I'll be keeping my ear to the ground for the next buy-back. How about ya'll?

No offense, but you're years late to this party
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Default Re: Gun buy-backs... What a scam! What a deal!

Yeah, they've been around for quite awhile. Just fostered contempt for awhile and decided to spew it.

Anyways, reading the news headlines about the oakland one makes my stomach turn.

"1000 Assault Weapons Collected in Oakland" or "People Arrive to Buyback With Truckload of Assault Weapons"

What a crock.
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Default Re: Gun buy-backs... What a scam! What a deal!

I've always been principled when it has come to government waste and taxes. I even refused to cash a BS property tax rebate check because it was simple wealth redistribution/election vote buying scheme.

I am still principled, but at this point the government has stolen so much of my money I'll take some back any chance I get. But I think buying BS guns to sell to a gun buyback at a profit pushes it a little even for me.
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Makes me want to get my Remington 570, saw off the barrel and shoulder stock, scratch off the serial # and turn it in for at least $300 bucks?
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#2. Every time a gun buy-back is planned, gun enthusiasts run out to their favorite pawn shop to buy a Lorcin or a Raven Arms MP25, Jiminez, etc. for $40, then turn it around no-questions-asked at a state run buy-back for $250. That sure is wise spending of tax payer money, wouldn't you say?
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I've always been principled when it has come to government waste and taxes. I even refused to cash a BS property tax rebate check because it was simple wealth redistribution/election vote buying scheme.

I am still principled, but at this point the government has stolen so much of my money I'll take some back any chance I get.
Then go cash that check dammit!
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Then go cash that check dammit!
I gave it to a person who makes way more money than me. Figured it belonged to him
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Agreed,

Cash the check and use the money for things that won't become worthless one day.

Gold, Ammo, Guns, Body Armor... etc.
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Default Re: Gun buy-backs... What a scam! What a deal!

They do those "buy backs" here in Pgh at least once a year.

I don't recall ever seeing them offer more than $30.
(and it's in the form of a gift card to a supermarket)
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