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For some reason those docs don't look right to me. I could very well be wrong but.... I think that I will call my rep and ask.
I can't vouch for the memos authenticity, just posted it on a members behalf

John Myers is certainly a person, and a quick google search yielded the phone numbers and Tapscott name tied to a legilative directory. Beyond that??????
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Everyone please by all means contact the representative office to verify the authenticity of the document. Ask the question if they are sponsoring a bill along the memos lines and why? Especially since it’s so easy to remove, alter, change conceal with a little fore thought on the criminal’s mind these marking, while you are engaged with the reps office mention all the cost associated with the expensive database required to make it fuctional.

In case they think it not going to be that much money, mention the PSP PICS has cost the taxpayers to date 130 million dollars to stop between 80-100 people a year for the last 10 years and out of those small numbers they only prosecute less than 50% of them to boot. Avery, very expensive way to catch criminals that the federal government NICS would do for at no cost.

Micro stamping technology is an expensive, unreliable process that we don’t need in PA and has not worked anywhere it’s been implemented, a major waste taxpayer funds and resources with little tangible results, that could not be obtained by other means.

Thanks for you to God’s County for hosting the image, I also have a whole lot of other such inconvenient sponsorship memos besides this one.
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*continues to stock up on ammo while he still can*
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Dont worry, i'm sure they will not grandfather older ammunition. Then of course that means they'll confiscate and destroy it. I'll be happy to give it to them though, bullets first...
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Lets not forget that this would pretty much end reloading completely. As there would be no way to do this yourself.

I just hope ammo manufactures stick it to the states(that actually pass it) the way that Barrett did to Komifornia.
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Notice in article they are not looking were the illegal drugs are coming from, why can't they pass a law that only drug have tagamets in them to trace their orgins (both illegal and legal) no one seems to have a problem with passing the same logic on firearms do they?. That would be anti-drug and they are only want anti-gun laws.

http://www.examiner.com/a-1183701~An...p_bullets.html

Annapolis mayor wants fired guns to automatically stamp bullets
Carolyn Peirce, The Examiner
2008-01-28 08:00:00.0
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BALTIMORE -
In the wake of a double homicide in Annapolis’ Bay Ridge Gardens apartments, Mayor Ellen Moyer is pushing for lawmakers to draft legislation that requires gun manufacturers to produce microstamp imprints of a gun’s serial number on shell casings.

The Annapolis mayor plans to meet with state leaders today, including House Speaker Michael Busch, D-Annapolis, City Police Chief Joseph Johnson and representatives from several state agencies to push for legislation and secure crime and drug-prevention funding.

“Being able to track where the illegal guns are coming from is really important to reducing the number of illegal guns on the street,” Moyer said.

The serial number would be automatically imprinted on the shell casings after the gun is fired. Her proposal also includes funding for a collaborative drug intervention program among nonprofits and youth-counseling centers.

“If we can close down those markets, that has a major impact on reducing petty and violent crime. Much of the petty crime is to support drug deals,” Moyer said.

Annapolis experienced a record-breaking nine homicides in 2007. The shootings of Cecelia Brown, 51, and Charles Cully, 29, on Jan. 18 marked the city’s first homicides of 2008.

Police spokesman Hal Dalton said the microstamping technology would only help with “crimes of passion.”

“If [microstamping] is just done at a state level and only Maryland does it, most criminals will try to import their weapons or make sure they get one without it,” he said.

The National Rifle Association calls the stamping technology a financial burden to law-abiding citizens.

“This is not an avenue that targets criminals because they are assuming criminal will use firearms as the law tells them to, rather than trying to find a way around it,” said Ashley Varner, NRA spokeswoman.

Dalton said the best option is surveillance cameras to catch criminals in the act.

Blanche Piersawl, a lifelong Eastport resident who has lost two sons to violent crime, said cameras are needed in the public housing communities. “I’m sick and tired of getting phone calls in the middle of the night about someone else’s children,” Piersawl said at a recent council meeting. “There are cameras all over this city except where there needs to be.”

Dalton said much of the crime occurs in public housing communities. “It’s not like these criminals are coming from Mars,” he said.
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