Permit to Carry denied by Susquehanna County Sheriff

[God's Country]

Originally Posted by ChamberedRound

However, if someone is claiming you were carrying in a waistband, the Sheriff is likely thinking you were CC'ing without a license, and using this eyewitness account as grounds for the denial. IMHO the issue is: do you have to prove that you WERE NOT CC'ing unlicensed, or is it the Sheriff's office vis-a-vis the eyewitness to prove that you WERE?

I see your point, but all of this seems ambiguous to me. According to Damage he was carrying on his property only, which is perfectly legal.

[ChamberedRound]

Originally Posted by Joe Smith

It was his property, he can CC there no problem so the point is moot.

My apologies, I must've missed that part of the description. Given that, it makes this denial all the more egrigous. In addition, I can't believe the Sheriff potentially violated Damage's privacy.

On an adminsitrative note, I'm making this a sticky.

[larrymeyer]

Originally Posted by Joe Smith

It was his property, he can CC there no problem so the point is moot.

[QUOTE}Originally Posted by The law
(a) Offense defined.--Any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.[/quote]

I have a question to this couldn't/wouldn't place of abode or fixed place of business be considered his Home and not necessary his outside property ???

[Atomic Dog]

Originally Posted by larrymeyer

[QUOTE}Originally Posted by The law
(a) Offense defined.--Any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.

I have a question to this couldn't/wouldn't place of abode or fixed place of business be considered his Home and not necessary his outside property ???

He owns the property so he should be covered. I see your point as to how it is worded. perhaps we can get some law-speak or case law to back this up.

[brewguy]

I think you guys all look at this wrong. No one said he broke a law and he isn't charged with anything. The Sherrif doesn't like OC and is using it as an excuse to not give him is permit. It has nothign to do with breaking any laws.

It is simply them flexing their power over you.

Looking up all the laws to prove he didn't break any is a waste of time, the Sherrif never claimed he broke a law.

The question is whether or not someone being intimidated by your OC is a reason to denie or not.

What needs to be done so this is handled once and for all?

[Damage control]

Originally Posted by brewguy

I think you guys all look at this wrong. No one said he broke a law and he isn't charged with anything. The Sherrif doesn't like OC and is using it as an excuse to not give him is permit. It has nothign to do with breaking any laws.

It is simply them flexing their power over you.

Looking up all the laws to prove he didn't break any is a waste of time, the Sherrif never claimed he broke a law.

The question is whether or not someone being intimidated by your OC is a reason to denie or not.

What needs to be done so this is handled once and for all?

The Sheriff did state there was no law broken or I would have been arrested.
But stated it showed lack of character. Big crock IMO I feel violated.

Damage Control

[buster]

Will we know where to donate, or did I miss that somewhere?

[ChamberedRound]

Originally Posted by Damage control

The Sheriff did state there was no law broken or I would have been arrested.
But stated it showed lack of character. Big crock IMO I feel violated.

Damage Control

Once again, a Sheriff trying to abuse the "reputation and character" clause of the UFA as a way to impose his own will.

Fight it all the way, Damage. This is another Sheriff that needs a re-education.

[GRoPA]

Originally Posted by Damage control

The Sheriff did state there was no law broken or I would have been arrested.
But stated it showed lack of character. Big crock IMO I feel violated.

Damage Control

So basically it is just his opinion. What a tool.

[Pa. Patriot]

Originally Posted by buster

Will we know where to donate, or did I miss that somewhere?

We haven't gotten to that point yet. This issue is less than 24hrs. old.... Stay tuned!