XD9 SUB Compcat

[Pa.Bill]

Originally Posted by Michele

Nice little bomb to drop here without explanation.
So.........what gave the XD a "do not buy rating'?

For full information you would have be check back to that issue...
This comes from the December issue of Gun Test "Best Guns of 2007" and the "Do not buy list of 2007" on page 20 of that issue.

I'll see if I can find the back issue.

Best
Bill------------------------->

[Mtbkski]

Found this on XD talk. Thought it was pretty good. Hope he don't mind that I'm sharing this.
Here is a link to the actual forum thread.
http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58204


10 reasons why the XD sc is still my carry gun

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I'm a research fanatic, often I'll research the heck out of a gun I'm wanting to purchase for months before actually getting it. Recently I've gone through a round of rechecking my CCW options, and looked at a number of other options available: the new slimmed-down Ruger SR9, the Sig P250, the latest options from Kahr, the H&K P30, the S&W MP compact, and others. I've concluded that the XD sc--despite the many other new guns and models that have come out--is still very hard to beat as a carry gun. I'm even considering buying ANOTHER XD sc in order to have one for backup, or to keep in the car, etc. They're so handy, it's well worth having two of them, to swap parts, mags, as needed.

10 reasons why the XD9 sc is still going to be my main carry gun:

1) Perfect height for me. It's under 5" tall (with 10rd mag), but unlike many of the Kahrs, it's big enough that I can get my full hand on it, if I use a Peace grip extender. Most smaller guns, including the Glock 26, weren't big enough in the grips for my big hands. Others are TOO tall, when you get over 5" they get harder to conceal on a thin person.

2) Perfect length. Because the gun is so short, when you conceal it, the muzzle doesn't hang way down and constantly poke you somewhere or cause the holster to chafe every time you sit down. The S&W MP, though a nice gun in some ways, is longer by half an inch, and is a bit harder to conceal.

3) Hi cap option. Unlike most other concealment guns--especially the Kahrs--this one has the OPTION of still having very hi capacity. I love the ability to throw in a 16rd mag!

4) Awesome trigger. The XD's trigger is in a class of its own. Mine pulls at just over 5 lbs, though it's never been worked on. I love the fact that the first trigger pull is the same as the second one, and the last one!

5) Simplicity of operation. Grab and shoot! No safeties, no decockers. This baby is FAST to put into action, and for lefties like me, truly ambidextrous.

6) Accurate. I can shoot more accurately with this 3" XD than I've been able to with some 4" and 5" guns by Taurus and Ruger and Glock. These things are amazingly accurate. Probably the S&W MP's are equal if not slightly better in accuracy, but the XD's are probably tied for best overall accuracy among lower cost polymer pistols. See this test in Guns & Ammo to indicate how accurate the XD is.

7) Safer. Unlike Glocks, and the new Sig 250 DAO, the grip safety on the XD stands between me and an accidental discharge. To me, any gun like the Glocks/new Sigs that has a trigger pull of 6 lbs or less, needs to have something standing between that trigger and an AD, besides just a trigger safety. I think the XD does it right: you have the grip safety, but there are no extra controls or levers to operate. Perfect!

8) Springfield's great customer service and warranty speak for themselves. I have found none better in the gun industry. Recently they took a new 1911 that was throwing fliers and producing 4" and 5" groups, and their service folks turned into a tack driver that can shoot 1" groups at 25 yards! Cost to me under the warranty? $0.

9) Perfect reliability. In over 1500 rds down range, my XD has NEVER jammed, misfed, or failed to fire.

10) Ease of maintenance. This is the quickest to take down, and easiest to maintain, of all my handguns.

[itstock]

Originally Posted by TcRoc

I enjoy reading the magazines with their articles but I don't buy into any of them.
Most are stuck on a brand or 2 and they hack the rest in thier articles to make thier favorites look better,, from the mouth of the owners right here and across other forums is a better place.

...just a heads up; If you go back and read through the thread, a couple of the people are in the same position as you. They don't even actually have the XD-sub yet.

However, I'm also interested in this review and why it's a "do not buy". Gun Tests have actually had very high regards for the XD in the past.

[Michele]

Thanks Mtbkski, great find!

I can't seem to find a bad thing about the XD sub.

Magazines rely solely on advertising. The ones that spend the most on advertising are usually the ones who get the best reviews on their products.

Poor little XD. So unloved, so unwanted.

Mine must be special because nobody can keep their hands off it.

[Mtbkski]

If you want to see great review after great review. Go to XDtalk.com. You will find thread after thread from owners of Subcompacts, that are preaching what we are just finding out on this thread. The Subcompact is an outstanding handling and shooting pistol that is super reliable. I can't wait to get mine. And the more I read, the more I want one.

[TcRoc]

Originally Posted by itstock

...just a heads up; If you go back and read through the thread, a couple of the people are in the same position as you. They don't even actually have the XD-sub yet.

However, I'm also interested in this review and why it's a "do not buy". Gun Tests have actually had very high regards for the XD in the past.

I've read all the posts.
But thanks for the heads up.

[Michele]

Originally Posted by Mtbkski

If you want to see great review after great review. Go to XDtalk.com. You will find thread after thread from owners of Subcompacts, that are preaching what we are just finding out on this thread. The Subcompact is an outstanding handling and shooting pistol that is super reliable. I can't wait to get mine. And the more I read, the more I want one.

Glad you had the chance to play with mine. You've probably put more ammo through it in one day than I have since I got it. What i'm saying is my gun is like brand new, not abused. Thats the way to fall in love. Happily there are no "kinks' to work out. You put it through its paces and it passed your test.
I found it to be exactly the same as the day I got it, perfect, nothings changed.

[Mtbkski]

Just a sampling of what is on XDtalk.com. And I do mean just a sampling. Nobody saying anything about not buying one, I'll tell you that.


http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/showthr...ght=subcompact

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/showthr...ght=subcompact

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/showthr...ght=subcompact

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/showthr...ght=subcompact

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/showthr...ght=subcompact

[Mtbkski]

Originally Posted by Michele

Glad you had the chance to play with mine. You've probably put more ammo through it in one day than I have since I got it. What i'm saying is my gun is like brand new, not abused. Thats the way to fall in love. Happily there are no "kinks' to work out. You put it through its paces and it passed your test.
I found it to be exactly the same as the day I got it, perfect, nothings changed.

I figure I fired around 300 to almost 400 rounds out of your subcompact that day (Not a clinch all day). I know I shoot 200+ rounds of my ammo, and you kept bringing over boxes that we just went thru like crazy. (I did thank you for that didn't I? If not. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!)

[Michele]

Just read through them. Can't go wrong with the XD.

Someone said that the .40 was punchier than the .45. I shot both at the shoot and I think I have to agree that the .40 was punchier than the .45.
Hummm. I was thinking about getting the .40 in compact for playing and carry. Hummmm maybe the .45 then.
Decisions, decisions
Although one think I am certain of is the XD will definitely be my next handgun.