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http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/...-make-your-day
"Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, as well as Vermont 's own Constitution very carefully, and his strict interpretation of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New England and elsewhere. Maslack recently proposed a bill to register "non-gun-owners" and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state. Thus Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a fee of $500 for the privilege of not owning a gun. Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals. Vermont 's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the State" and those persons who are "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent.." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves, so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise." Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government interest in knowing who is not prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says. Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state ... it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation. " America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the b*******." This makes sense! There is no reason why gun owners should have to pay taxes to support police protection for people not wanting to own guns. Let them contribute their fair share and pay their own way. Sounds reasonable to me! Non-gun owners require more police to protect them and this fee should go to paying for their defense!"
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The Amish and Mennonites are not trying to take guns away from anyone.
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that's awesome!
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Hmm...quite true. I suppose I should just say sheeple, but I was trying to capture the fact that the sheeple often do so on a false moralistic basis, which should be brought to their attention that it's in fact quite immoral.
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This is an old article. Either way, I disagree with it. Nobody should be forced to exercise a right. Absolutely ridiculous.
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While I love the idea in principle because of who gets singled out, I hate the idea that the state is keeping books on and charging fines to people for any reason.
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what bothers me is that is a de facto registration of gun owners. if you have a list of everyone who doesnt own a gun then if a person isnt on the list he must have a gun. Last edited by PaBimmerGuy; July 18th, 2011 at 01:24 PM. |
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I don't think the bill was ever meant to pass, but rather make a political statement. Personally I would not support such a bill. Forcing people to own guns is just as bad as confiscating guns IMO. There is nothing in the second amendment that "mandates" gun ownership:
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That being said, I would support a bill making all gun-related purchases tax-free and tax-deductible, as we are contributing to the sovereignty of the state with every purchase. |
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Vermont is the only state that does not require a permit to carry a concealed weapon? That's news to me. Because that was not true yesterday.
How would one avoid registering and paying the tax? I guess you would have to provide evidence that you own a gun? Something that can be documented? Big dumb nonsense. |
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