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Sorry if this has been addressed before, I did a search but came up empty.

My question is this: What authority does a probation officer have over people who are not on probation?

I know they have "god like" authority over their little lambs, but what about us upstanding members of society?

The reason I ask is this morning I stopped at the Sheetz in Franklin for coffee. As I was leaving two probby officers were giving me the stink eye. I'm just wondering if they try giving me shit if I can tell them to pound salt in their asses and walk away.

Edit: Forgot to add that I was Open carrying.

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How did you know they were probation officers?
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I would go the pound salt option... A probation officer is NOT a LEO. They are very restricted in what they can do... Now, that being said, they can act like total jerks, as most POs are that I have ever encountered. There are some good POs out there, but it seems 96% of them I've met are really bullies that couldn't find another job with their level of "people skills"...


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My question is this: What authority does a probation officer have over people who are not on probation?

I'm just wondering if they try giving me shit if I can tell them to pound salt in their asses and walk away.
None. They are normal citizens like you and me.


Tell them to pound sand (or salt).


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None. They are normal citizens like you and me.


Tell them to pound sand (or salt).


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This is correct from my understanding. But instead of pounding on them, just completely ignore them. It makes those who believe they have power crazy when some of us recognize they have none.
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Default Re: Probation Officer Authority??

ignore them just as you would any other ass hat with an attitude. when you are carrying open or concealed you need to be immune to less then lethal threats. seems as if you have a bone to pick. maybe im wrong but in my day to day unless i am engaged in my daily business i dont give a thought to what others may think or feel about what i do/say or how i conduct myself. you, by recognizing them validate them.

so it would seem by even mentioning it here you ask for it from them and also for validation of your immature notions from us. man up dude. conduct!
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ignore them just as you would any other ass hat with an attitude. when you are carrying open or concealed you need to be immune to less then lethal threats. seems as if you have a bone to pick. maybe im wrong but in my day to day unless i am engaged in my daily business i dont give a thought to what others may think or feel about what i do/say or how i conduct myself. you, by recognizing them validate them.

so it would seem by even mentioning it here you ask for it from them and also for validation of your immature notions from us. man up dude. conduct!
The only immature notions I see are contained in your post. The OP asked a reasonable and valid question.
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Sorry if this has been addressed before, I did a search but came up empty.

My question is this: What authority does a probation officer have over people who are not on probation?

I know they have "god like" authority over their little lambs, but what about us upstanding members of society?

The reason I ask is this morning I stopped at the Sheetz in Franklin for coffee. As I was leaving two probby officers were giving me the stink eye. I'm just wondering if they try giving me shit if I can tell them to pound salt in their asses and walk away.
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Yes, you can tell them to pound sand, go to hell, or whatever you want. If you are not one of their charges, you have nothing to fear. Most PO's are wannabe cops who couldn't fully realize their dream, so they try to act like badass LEOs. And yes, the vast majority I have ever seen are jerks.
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The only additional power they have is to police the folks on probation/parole. Other than that they have no more powers of arrest as you, I, or the sheriff.

However, should the probation/parole officer also be a full LEO, just doing the PO work on the side, then they might have additional arrest powers. But even at that, if you are lawfully carrying and aren't breaking any other laws - you can pretty much tell any LEO to go pound sand.
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