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    Default Probation and guns/ammo in the house

    My 21-year-old niece (who has lived with us since she was 7) made a horrible choice and was arrested for DUI back in January. This past week she had her day in court and was placed on probation for six months; the terms include "no firearms or deadly weapons" in the residence. Also includes ammo. I spoke with her Probation Officer and she made it clear that even a bank vault wouldn't be good enough -- they have to be out of the house altogether.

    As bad as that is, they also gave her a "Firearm Verification Report" that requires the address where they have been stored AND a list of the guns, with a "Complete Item Description" for each and noting that "Serial Number for firearms is mandatory." It has to be signed by both of us, and they expect it to be returned to the PO next week. If there was a reasonable alternative she'd be moving out, but that's not realistic. Looks like I'll spend Sunday storing my guns at a friend's house (Happy Fathers Day). The list of guns is especially troubling, though my handguns are all in the PSP's registry-that-is-not-a-registry anyway.

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    Default Re: Probation and guns/ammo in the house

    I don't get it. If they are requiring that no guns are in her place of residence, then why the inventory of guns? You have to remove the guns from the residence. Presuming you do that, what guns need to be inventoried?
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    Default Re: Probation and guns/ammo in the house

    Quote Originally Posted by tommy610 View Post
    I don't get it. If they are requiring that no guns are in her place of residence, then why the inventory of guns? You have to remove the guns from the residence. Presuming you do that, what guns need to be inventoried?
    Ya thats seems wrong, if you basically have a signed affidavit that the firearms are moved from the home, the serials should be irrelevant i would think.

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    Default Re: Probation and guns/ammo in the house

    I was just thinking the same thing.
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    Default Re: Probation and guns/ammo in the house

    Something smells with that deal. I was on probate and I didnt have to do that and the guns were mine. I would say they are at a friends and the second thing is they will have to check out your house anyways, so make sure there is no booze in the house too. I've heard of the sheriff coming and taking the guns and then you have to fight to get them back. I wouldn't let them know where or what the # are.

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    Default Re: Probation and guns/ammo in the house

    So, even if the guns are in a safe that only you have the combo/keys for... that's not good?

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    Default Re: Probation and guns/ammo in the house

    She made the choice that resulted in either her or your guns leaving your house.

    If you'd been given the choice, I'm sure you'd have opted for her to not drink and drive.

    Time for your niece to get an apartment. Unless she's a paraplegic, this is a realistic option.

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