Gun Purchase Background Checks

[Frenchy]

I had heard some thing similar, takes 3 DUI to get revoked... Mind you I once talked to some one who had a gun for sale dirt cheap.. So I asked him why you selling it so low, is it stolen? His response was no, got a DUI... I said so its your 3rd DUI? He said no, first one, but I punched the cop out and resisted arrest... So for him it was a matter of sell the gun, or gets it confiscated.

Many times we hear the lesser of the offenses we don’t get the whole story… Example, I once mentioned to some one we where hiring where I work, his response was I cant work there, I had a DUI.. I said heck I’m sure my bosses have had DUI also, there are a bunch of party animals! He said yeah, but how many hit some one and killed them with the car while drinking?
Suddenly the DUI was manslaughter. So while people often claim they had a DUI, is that all they had, or was there more to it then that?

Just a thought

[ar15jules]

Here is a list, and it should be current of offenses that will get you denied. Please see C, sub 3 for your DUI answer.
Jules

§ 6105. Persons not to possess, use, manufacture, control, sell or transfer firearms.
(a) Offense defined.--

A person who has been convicted of an offense enumerated in subsection (b), within or without this Commonwealth, regardless of the length of sentence or whose conduct meets the criteria in subsection (c) shall not possess, use, control, sell, transfer or manufacture or obtain a license to possess, use, control, sell, transfer or manufacture a firearm in this Commonwealth.
A person who is prohibited from possessing, using, controlling, selling, transferring or manufacturing a firearm under paragraph (1) or subsection (b) or (c) shall have a reasonable period of time, not to exceed 60 days from the date of the imposition of the disability under this subsection, in which to sell or transfer that person's firearms to another eligible person who is not a member of the prohibited person's household.

(a.1) Penalty.--Any person convicted of a felony enumerated under subsection (b) or a felony under the act of April 14, 1972 (P.L. 233, No. 64), known as The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act, or any equivalent Federal statute or equivalent statute of any other state, who violates subsection (a) commits a felony of the second degree.

(b) Enumerated offenses.--The following offenses shall apply to subsection (a):

Section 908 (relating to prohibited offensive weapons).
Section 911 (relating to corrupt organizations).
Section 912 (relating to possession of weapon on school property).
Section 2502 (relating to murder).
Section 2503 (relating to voluntary manslaughter).
Section 2504 (relating to involuntary manslaughter) if the offense is based on the reckless use of a firearm.
Section 2702 (relating to aggravated assault).
Section 2703 (relating to assault by prisoner).
Section 2704 (relating to assault by life prisoner).
Section 2709 (relating to harassment and stalking) if the offense relates to stalking.
Section 2901 (relating to kidnapping).
Section 2902 (relating to unlawful restraint).
Section 2910 (relating to luring a child into a motor vehicle).
Section 3121 (relating to rape).
Section 3123 (relating to involuntary deviate sexual intercourse).
Section 3125 (relating to aggravated indecent assault).
Section 3301 (relating to arson and related offenses).
Section 3302 (relating to causing or risking catastrophe).
Section 3502 (relating to burglary).
Section 3503 (relating to criminal trespass) if the offense is graded a felony of the second degree or higher.
Section 3701 (relating to robbery).
Section 3702 (relating to robbery of motor vehicle).
Section 3921 (relating to theft by unlawful taking or disposition) upon conviction of the second felony offense.
Section 3923 (relating to theft by extortion) when the offense is accompanied by threats of violence.
Section 3925 (relating to receiving stolen property) upon conviction of the second felony offense.
Section 4912 (relating to impersonating a public servant) if the person is impersonating a law enforcement officer.
Section 4952 (relating to intimidation of witnesses or victims).
Section 4953 (relating to retaliation against witness or victim).
Section 5121 (relating to escape).
Section 5122 (relating to weapons or implements for escape).
Section 5501(3) (relating to riot).
Section 5515 (relating to prohibiting of paramilitary training).
Section 6110.1 (relating to possession of firearm by minor).
Section 6301 (relating to corruption of minors).
Section 6302 (relating to sale or lease of weapons and explosives).
Any offense equivalent to any of the above-enumerated offenses under the prior laws of this Commonwealth or any offense equivalent to any of the above-enumerated offenses under the statutes of any other state or of the United States.

(c) Other persons.--In addition to any person who has been convicted of any offense listed under subsection (b), the following persons shall be subject to the prohibition of subsection (a):

A person who is a fugitive from justice. This paragraph does not apply to an individual whose fugitive status is based upon a nonmoving or moving summary offense under Title 75 (relating to vehicles).
A person who has been convicted of an offense under the act of April 14, 1972 (P.L.233, No.64), known as The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act, or any equivalent Federal statute or equivalent statute of any other state, that may be punishable by a term of imprisonment exceeding two years.
A person who has been convicted of driving under the influence of alcohol or controlled substance as provided in 75 Pa.C.S. § 3731 (relating to driving under influence of alcohol or controlled substance) on three or more separate occasions within a five-year period. For the purposes of this paragraph only, the prohibition of subsection (a) shall only apply to transfers or purchases of firearms after the third conviction.
A person who has been adjudicated as an incompetent or who has been involuntarily committed to a mental institution for inpatient care and treatment under section 302, 303 or 304 of the provisions of the act of July 9, 1976 (P.L.817, No.143), known as the Mental Health Procedures Act. This paragraph shall not apply to any proceeding under section 302 of the Mental Health Procedures Act unless the examining physician has issued a certification that inpatient care was necessary or that the person was committable.
A person who, being an alien, is illegally or unlawfully in the United States.
A person who is the subject of an active protection from abuse order issued pursuant to 23 Pa.C.S. § 6108 (relating to relief), which order provided for the confiscation of firearms during the period of time the order is in effect. This prohibition shall terminate upon the expiration or vacation of an active protection from abuse order or portion thereof relating to the confiscation of firearms.
A person who was adjudicated delinquent by a court pursuant to 42 Pa.C.S.§ 6341 (relating to adjudication) or under any equivalent Federal statute or statute of any other state as a result of conduct which if committed by an adult would constitute an offense under sections 2502, 2503, 2702, 2703 (relating to assault by prisoner), 2704, 2901, 3121, 3123, 3301, 3502, 3701 and 3923.
A person who was adjudicated delinquent by a court pursuant to 42 Pa.C.S.§ 6341 or under any equivalent Federal statute or statute of any other state as a result of conduct which if committed by an adult would constitute an offense enumerated in subsection (b) with the exception of those crimes set forth in paragraph (7). This prohibition shall terminate 15 years after the last applicable delinquent adjudication or upon the person reaching the age of 30, whichever is earlier.

(d) Exemption.--A person who has been convicted of a crime specified in subsection (a) or (b) or a person whose conduct meets the criteria in subsection (c)(1), (2), (5) or (7) may make application to the court of common pleas of the county where the principal residence of the applicant is situated for relief from the disability imposed by this section upon the possession, transfer or control of a firearm. The court shall grant such relief if it determines that any of the following apply:

The conviction has been vacated under circumstances where all appeals have been exhausted or where the right to appeal has expired.
The conviction has been the subject of a full pardon by the Governor.
Each of the following conditions is met:
The Secretary of the Treasury of the United States has relieved the applicant of an applicable disability imposed by Federal law upon the possession, ownership or control of a firearm as a result of the applicant's prior conviction, except that the court may waive this condition if the court determines that the Congress of the United States has not appropriated sufficient funds to enable the Secretary of the Treasury to grant relief to applicants eligible for the relief.
A period of ten years, not including any time spent in incarceration, has elapsed since the most recent conviction of the applicant of a crime enumerated in subsection (b) or a felony violation of The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act.

(e) Proceedings.--

If a person convicted of an offense under subsection (a), (b) or (c)(1), (2), (5) or (7) makes application to the court, a hearing shall be held in open court to determine whether the requirements of this section have been met. The commissioner and the district attorney of the county where the application is filed and any victim or survivor of a victim of the offense upon which the disability is based may be parties to the proceeding.
Upon application to the court of common pleas pursuant to paragraph (1) by an applicant who is subject to the prohibition under subsection (c)(3), the court shall grant such relief if a period of ten years, not including any time spent in incarceration, has passed since the applicant's most recent conviction under subsection (c)(3).

(f) Other exemptions and proceedings.--

Upon application to the court of common pleas under this subsection by an applicant subject to the prohibitions under subsection (c)(4), the court may grant such relief as it deems appropriate if the court determines that the applicant may possess a firearm without risk to the applicant or any other person.
If application is made under this subsection for relief from the disability imposed under subsection (c)(6), notice of such application shall be given to the person who had petitioned for the protection from abuse order, and such person shall be a party to the proceedings. Notice of any court order or amendment to a court order restoring firearms possession or control shall be given to the person who had petitioned for the protection from abuse order.
All hearings conducted under this subsection shall be closed.

(g) Other restrictions.--Nothing in this section shall exempt a person from a disability in relation to the possession or control of a firearm which is imposed as a condition of probation or parole or which is imposed pursuant to the provision of any law other than this section.

(h) License prohibition.--Any person who is prohibited from possessing, using, controlling, selling, purchasing, transferring or manufacturing any firearm under this section shall not be eligible for or permitted to obtain a license to carry a firearm under section 6109 (relating to licenses).

(i) Firearm.--As used in this section only, the term "firearm" shall include any weapons which are designed to or may readily be converted to expel any projectile by the action of an explosive or the frame or receiver of any such weapon.

(j) Copy of order to State Police.--If the court grants relief from the disabilities imposed under this section, a copy of the order shall be sent by the prothonotary within ten days of the entry of the order to the Pennsylvania State Police and shall include the name, date of birth and Social Security number of the individual.

[jahwarrior72]

i have a question, too. i know a background check is rquired to buy a handgun, but what about other firearms, like shotguns and hunting rifles? my boss asked me today if i knew, i said i'd find out for him. he's restricted from owning or carrying a handgun, but he would like to know if he can legally hunt with and own a shotgun. thanks, guys.

[c.sander]

Originally Posted by jahwarrior72

i have a question, too. i know a background check is rquired to buy a handgun, but what about other firearms, like shotguns and hunting rifles? my boss asked me today if i knew, i said i'd find out for him. he's restricted from owning or carrying a handgun, but he would like to know if he can legally hunt with and own a shotgun. thanks, guys.

no he legally cant own a shotgun... and thats all im going to tell you about that

[JayBell]

Originally Posted by jahwarrior72

i have a question, too. i know a background check is rquired to buy a handgun, but what about other firearms, like shotguns and hunting rifles? my boss asked me today if i knew, i said i'd find out for him. he's restricted from owning or carrying a handgun, but he would like to know if he can legally hunt with and own a shotgun. thanks, guys.

All firearms purchased from a dealer must pass the PICS check, no exceptions aside form black powder firearms and pre1899 antiques.

if your boss is prohibited form owning/posessing a handgun, hes a "prohibited person" and cannot posess ANY firearms, or ammunition for same.

this includes blackpowder firearms for prohibited persons, as PA treats them as firearms in relation to felon/prohibited person posession.

this also means he cant purchase any firearm legally off a private seller.

[jahwarrior72]

ah, okay. thanks for the info.

[DaveM55]

Originally Posted by GUNRUNNERS OF PA

You learn quickly grasshopper...........Don't believe what you read on internet forums until you confirm it for yourself. Now go get your carry permit!

I don't believe you.

[Mtbkski]

I tell myself to read the older threads. But never get around to it. Then someone revives a thread like this one. And I end up learning all kind of stuff. Thanks. I had no idea that the DUI thing counted. Didn't know that prohibited to own an handgun was really firearms in general. I love this site. Learn something new all the time.

[boakeknows]

new to the web site here...if you are not a felon, and you have no mental health issues. what else can they hold against you for purchasing firearms or handguns? do you have to purchase to find out or is there a service that you can check before you make an ass of yourself in a gunshop? i have several firearms now but they were either gifts or hand me downs. i would like to get a handgun before any additional laws are passed restricting the purchase of one. thanks...