Miami TV Reporter Arrested for Entering School Property With Gun

[XD45]

The video needs to be about 45min longer to figure out whats really going on. seems to me he was tresspassing, the reason he didn't want to leave and all that doesn't matter. I doubt he'll get a weapons charge if he never went into the school, but i dont know how far onto the property he made it. I'd also like to know what he did to get the attention of all those people and officers, he had to of been doing something to get rise out of people.

But I personally can't stand these little reporters who get arrested trying to get their 15minutes of fame. Just because your a reporter doesn't make you above the law

[knight0334]

The sidewalk very well could be school property. With exception of a few places, cities and developments - the land is plotted out to be adjacent to neighboring parcels. The road is then placed on a right-of-way to the municipality/state on YOUR land. If the R-of-W is for only X number of feet and the road and shoulder take it all up, a sidewalk could be on the private section and trespassing, or on private land and privately owned. You cant always assume that a sidewalk or even road is public just because it's there.

Example: My lot in Brookville.. (actually from my deed)

Starting at the the center of the road(Main St, SR28/322), 30' north-westerly of steel pipe located on south side of road on parcel #***. Bear north for 150ft along line of trees, turn west and travel a distance of 64', then turn south and travel a distance of 150' to center of road, then bear east for 64'. All lands within said boundaries are to be known as parcel #***.

The state has a 33' R-of-W for the road, of which 16.5' of it is on MY land. Then the borough has a 3' R-of-W for the sidewalk on MY land-which 1" is over the bounds and is trespassing. And I am paying taxes on the land to the center of the road.

Another example: In Penfield, PA - a section of SR153 is on solely private property - no registered R-of-W. One lane(North bound) + shoulder is trespassing on a guy's land that the state never got right-of-way for when they moved the road from behind the man's house to in front of it early last century. PennDot pays this guy for a lease yearly.


Now if where that guy was on public grounds completely free and clear, then he still willfully disobeyed a command from an officer. ...which is a crime.

[XD45]

I like the people on youtube blaming it all on bush...............

[brewguy]

Originally Posted by DeltaII5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPPAwo3_7d0
news clip

I still don't get where a sidewalk is school property. Unless your talking about the defunk gun free school zone act.

That video helps. It looks like they didn't want him interviewing anyone so decided to single him out and make him leave.

As for the school property issue, it probably has something to do with the school zones and stuff we have around here. You know for example kids can't smoke on sidewalks near the school.

[Zef_66]

Originally Posted by knight0334

Now if where that guy was on public grounds completely free and clear, then he still willfully disobeyed a command from an officer. ...which is a crime.

So disobeying any command from an officer is a crime? May be so, but can an officer command that you cover your openly carried handgun? Even if he knows that open carry is legal, and still asks you to cover it up or take it off, and you refuse, can he arrest you for "disobeying a command of an officer"

I understand if you are creating a stir. But just say, can any officer ask you to stop doing something that it completely legal, and if you refuse, just arrest you? If you don't stop whistling when walking down the street when asked, can they arrest you?

[knight0334]

Originally Posted by Zef_66

So disobeying any command from an officer is a crime? May be so, but can an officer command that you cover your openly carried handgun? Even if he knows that open carry is legal, and still asks you to cover it up or take it off, and you refuse, can he arrest you for "disobeying a command of an officer"

I understand if you are creating a stir. But just say, can any officer ask you to stop doing something that it completely legal, and if you refuse, just arrest you? If you don't stop whistling when walking down the street when asked, can they arrest you?

It all depends on the situation really and where you are at. Given this reporter's incident, I'd say he had done something that didn't make the video footage and disobeying the officer's order to depart - then yeah, theres a crime. In a situation about covering up a openly carried firearm in PA with no other issues like trespassing, disorderly conduct, etc - then no, disobeying wouldn't be a crime because nothing created the need for legal intervention(the lawful commands).

That is pretty much how it works in FL. What happens there doesn't always apply here. If he would have been openly carrying in FL, he could have been arrested because OC is completely illegal there with or without a permit - so if the officer told him to cover it up, then he had better comply to the lawful command. Otherwise he could face stiffer action.

Much of the time, a command from an officer is to help you avoid being charged with something. Its generally a good idea to heed his warning, because you may not know what he may have on reserve to charge you with.

[brewguy]

Originally Posted by Zef_66

So disobeying any command from an officer is a crime? May be so, but can an officer command that you cover your openly carried handgun? Even if he knows that open carry is legal, and still asks you to cover it up or take it off, and you refuse, can he arrest you for "disobeying a command of an officer"

I understand if you are creating a stir. But just say, can any officer ask you to stop doing something that it completely legal, and if you refuse, just arrest you? If you don't stop whistling when walking down the street when asked, can they arrest you?

That is right, obey your master or pay the price!!

Now shut up and pay your taxes..

[XD45]

Here's a longer version, but I still dont have any idea what its all about unless they want to keep the sidewalk free for all the kids leaving? I dont get it, its def not worth it you know your gonna get on the news for it and you'll be in the middle of a shitstorm why not just leave him go?


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f5c_1193345495

[NineseveN]

Originally Posted by XD45

Here's a longer version, but I still dont have any idea what its all about unless they want to keep the sidewalk free for all the kids leaving? I dont get it, its def not worth it you know your gonna get on the news for it and you'll be in the middle of a shitstorm why not just leave him go?


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f5c_1193345495

Based on that video, the cops were in the wrong. I hope they get nailed for it.

[Zef_66]

Originally Posted by NineseveN

Based on that video, the cops were in the wrong. I hope they get nailed for it.

Can't see the video at work. Why are the cops wrong, in your opinion?