How they took there guns

[RUDY850]

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[LorDiego01]

Great post!

I hope this is a wake up call for all Americans.

If you think it cant happen to you, then you are naive.

[FlyinGN]

I remember seeing that vid clip of that poor old woman when it happened way back when this happened..

[phillyd2]

"Wake up call for all Americans" ??????

Thanks for posting this.

I really hate to be the one to point out the obvious but who was it that illegally confiscated the guns? Terrorist Arabs? Commie Chinese? UN Blue Helmets? Nope....It was none other than our fellow American LEO & National Guardsmen. Both wearing a uniform they put on after swearing to protect and defend the Constitution. Shameful.

I have already posted my feeling about the arrogance of power so I will not repeat them here, least I again be accused of having it in for LEO. Enough to say that history should have taught the lesson that "just following orders" is not a valid defense.

What a outrage. Shame, Shame, Shame!

[Frenchy]

Now comes the real fiasco, because these guns that where once all legal, all became illegal, not that they did any crime, but that they no longer have the rightful owners... Any one who would want to be dishonest there could say they had thompsons, and $20,000 collection guns and no one could argue with them, where are the papers? Heck, with that much water around you would be lucky to find any papers be it wallets, bills, people lost every thing there that was light in the flood.
Had the Govt left people their rights, then missing property would be insurance and God's will if it went missing, but as soon as the Authorities took one gun, they opened a can of worms. Now any one could go on saying their gun is missing, even if it where not in fact...

I can see how the Govt will worm their way out of this and say its up to the Insurance to deal with it, but some where I am sure, there are people who now own guns they once confiscated...

[Siobhra]

I was about to start this rant with "and the worst part about it." But so much about this is wrong that it is hard to say that.

The glue that holds any country together is trust in the system. It is the one main reason I think what we are doing in Iraq will not work. We must have complete trust in the system. When someone violates that trust they are attacking the very fiber of the country.

If I had my way the NRA should push for the Mayor and a few of the officers involved to be arrested for treason.

When we see a police action taking place there must be no doubt that the cops are the good guys doing the right thing. When we see a cop alone and in trouble we should help the officer. We should not stand by and watch the officer get beat because we are not sure if the suspect is defending himself.

[RUDY850]

If I'm not mistaken.When some one joins the NRA the money goes to the cost of the magazine/ training /grants to shooting clubs and things like that.The way they do make there money to go to court and fight for are rights is from donations. Thats why they send out lots of mail to there members asking for donations. I have no idea what the court cost are but I'm sure it is More then anyone of us could afford. And yet their are gun owners that for this reason drop there membership.Being a member of the NRA and donating when you can is like having homeowners insurance. You don't have to have the insurance. But if your house Burns down and you don't then its just to late to do anything about it. Hopefully this video will get more gun owners thinking that they do need to be a NRA member. And if we all stand together this kind of thing along with gun bans and such will not happen.

[RUDY850]

S. 2599/H.R. 5013: Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006

In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, the citizens of New Orleans lost their right to defend themselves from thugs and looters when law enforcement systematically confiscated legally owed firearms from those who were trying to protect themselves, their families and their property. To ensure this never happens again, the passage of S. 2599/H.R. 5013, the “Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006,” is a top NRA-ILA legislative priority.

On July 25, 2006, the U.S. House of Representatives voted 322 to 99 to pass H.R. 5013 (introduced by Rep. Bobby Jindal, R-LA), to guarantee that the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding Americans will never again be violated during a time of emergency. Companion legislation, S. 2599 by Sen. David Vitter (R-LA), is now under consideration in the U.S. Senate.

S. 2599 specifically prohibits the confiscation of lawfully possessed firearms by officials during emergencies. It also forbids federal officers or employees from requiring the registration of firearms, prohibiting the lawful carrying of firearms or banning the possession of lawful firearms. These prohibitions apply to all federal officers, employees or any others who receive federal funds and specifically include the uniformed services.

The legislation also expressly allows citizens to bring legal action--similar to a traditional civil rights suit--against any government agent or employee who violates this act. The bill also allows for suit to be brought to force the return of any illegally confiscated firearm. Finally, S.2599/H.R. 5013 provides for payment of attorney’s fees for victims who are forced to use the courts to restore their rights and property.

The strong bipartisan vote in favor of H.R. 5013 demonstrates the broad support for this legislation. Law enforcement must never again be allowed to disarm law-abiding people during a time of emergency when they are most vulnerable to criminal attack and when authorities are least able to come to the aid of citizens.

On July 13, 2006, 84 Senators voted in favor of an amendment to the Homeland Security appropriations bill (H.R. 5441) to prohibit the use of any federal funds to confiscate lawfully owned or possessed firearms. This was an important step; however, it applies the restriction only to funding for the 2007 fiscal year. Passage of S. 2599/H.R. 5013 will make the prohibition of government confiscation of firearms during times of emergencies permanent and provides badly needed remedies for victims of confiscation should it ever happen in violation of the law.

[pghplr]

Some situations where totally horrifing, those in which LEO went into the homes of citizens and confiscated guns. Especially rifles and shotguns. That seemed pretty cut and dry as illegal. However, on the street, it probably isn't/wasn't so easy to tell who was and wasn't legally carrying guns. Assuming alot of people may not have had proper paperwork survive the flood. I'm not saying it was right, I'm just saying it would be difficult in some situations to tell the good guys from bad. Communications were miserable at the time. My point there is that there would be an element of people who I would want to have guns taken from and how would you know who they are? How should that be addressed?
As far as individual cops following orders...I don't put it on the cops as much as I do the people at the top of the chain, that being The Mayors office and the Chief of Police. (unless it came from even higher) Somewhere in that disision making process, someone needed to check themselves. Individual cops making disisions other than those directed = Rogue Cop. The very thing most of us get pissed about. Was it right taking lawfully owned guns, no, but it's not the fault of someone following orders. There should have been someone stepping in to stop the proccess. Thats the real breakdown as far as I'm concerned.

[danp]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

Any one who would want to be dishonest there could say they had thompsons, and $20,000 collection guns and no one could argue with them, where are the papers?

In that case the ATF has copies of the papers, at least in theory, the NFA registry is notorious for being broken and incomplete.