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"Committee JUDICIARY Date November 20, 2007
Bill/Resolution HB22 PN0047 Type of Motion Report Bill As Committed
Sponsor Rep. Williams Co-Sponsor Rep. Manderino
Brief Description providing for a limit on handgun purchases and sales; establishing the Violence Prevention Fund; and further providing for municipal regulation of firearms and ammunition. "

Any details on where the funding for a "violence prevention fund" would have come from? Was it going to be an additional tax or fee added to the sale of firearms?
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Any details on where the funding for a "violence prevention fund" would have come from? Was it going to be an additional tax or fee added to the sale of firearms?
13 (e) Disposition of fines collected.--The court imposing and
14 collecting a fine under subsection (d) shall transfer the fines
15 thus collected to the State Treasurer for deposit in the
16 Violence Prevention Fund under subsection (f).
17 (f) Violence Prevention Fund.--There is established in the
18 General Fund a nonlapsing, restricted receipt account to be
19 known as the Violence Prevention Fund. Money in the fund is
20 hereby appropriated to the Pennsylvania Commission on Crime and
21 Delinquency solely for purposes of violence prevention and youth
22 violence prevention, including youth education and activities
23 designed to prevent violence and grants to law enforcement
24 agencies for equipment and training designed to prevent gun-
25 related injuries.
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A couple of letters based on who voted for what...(some might prefer to BCC each address so that none of them know who this was sent to).






Voted against All Measures (HB18, HB22 and HB29)

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Subject: Tuesday’s Votes on Anti-Gun Legislative Package


Dear Representative,

I had contacted you previously about Ed Rendell’s anti-gun legislation packages, urging you to vote against them and stand for my rights as a resident of this Commonwealth. Upon checking the vote tallies from that session, I am very pleased to see that HB18 and HB22 failed miserably (and according to the news accounts, within 10 minutes). I do find it unfortunate that we did not find such success in dealing with HB29, but since you voted against it, I hope I can continue to count on you to resist this measure, and any other like it in the future in addition to further resisting legislation as onerous as HB18, HB22 or any other form of gun control.

Thank you,



= = = = = = = = = = = =

Voted against HB18 and HB22 (but for HB29)

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Subject: Tuesday’s Votes on Anti-Gun Legislative Package


Dear Representative,

I had contacted you previously about Ed Rendell’s anti-gun legislation packages, urging you to vote against them and stand for my rights as a resident of this Commonwealth. Upon checking the vote tallies from that session, I am very pleased to see that HB18 and HB22 failed miserably (and according to the news accounts, within 10 minutes). I do find it unfortunate that HB29 did not meet a similar end. HB29, if enacted, would do nothing to stop crime from happening; crime happens in opposition to the law, that’s what makes it crime (the very essence of a criminal is someone that does not obey the law).

While I can understand the temptation to succumb to such weak and reactionary measures to give the appearance of doing something about the problem of crime in the face of public and political pressure, this measure is simply too indiscriminate and has the potential to slip the innocent victims of crime into the crosshairs of law enforcement. I hope I can continue to count on you to further resist measures such as HB18 and HB22, and any other like them in the future, and I once again implore you to come to your senses regarding HB29 or similar legislation and spend your energies on pursuits that would actually have an effect on crime without giving over to the potential to harm innocent gun owners and residents of this commonwealth.

Thank you,



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tcaltagi@pahouse.net, dleach@pahouse.net, kmanderi@pahouse.net, lbenning@pahouse.net, dfrankel@pahouse.net, hjames@pahouse.net, gvitali@pahouse.net, jwilliam@pahouse.net, cwagner@pahouse.net, blentz@pahouse.net

Subject: Tuesday’s Votes on Anti-Gun Legislative Package


Dear Representative,

I had contacted you previously about Ed Rendell’s anti-gun legislation packages, urging you to vote against them and stand for my rights as a resident of this Commonwealth. Upon checking the vote tallies from that session, I am very pleased to see that HB18 and HB22 failed miserably (and according to the news accounts, within 10 minutes). I do find it unfortunate that HB29 did not meet a similar end. HB29, if enacted, would do nothing to stop crime from happening; crime happens in opposition to the law, that’s what makes it crime (the very essence of a criminal is someone that does not obey the law).

While I can understand the temptation to succumb to such weak and reactionary measures to give the appearance of doing something about the problem of crime in the face of public and political pressure, this measure is simply too indiscriminate and has the potential to slip the innocent victims of crime into the crosshairs of law enforcement.

I once again implore you to come to your senses regarding HB18, HB22, HB29 or similar legislation and spend your energies on pursuits that would actually have an effect on crime without giving over to the potential to harm innocent gun owners. If you choose to continue down this asinine path of knee-jerk do-nothing legislation to satisfy what appears to be an anti-gun appetite, I will work towards making sure that other gun owners and residents of your district and this state know that you do not stand for the constitution and the spirit of this commonwealth and that you would rather infringe upon the liberty of free, law-abiding citizens than to engage your brain and work towards something that would actually help in solving the crime issue. The problem is not guns, it’s criminals.


Sincerely,


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For HB 22 and HB29 (O’Neil is anti-gun but voted against HB18 while Harper is supposed to be Pro-Gun according to the NRA, FOAC, PSA and ACSL mailings)

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Subject: Tuesday’s Votes on Anti-Gun Legislative Package


Dear Representative,

I had contacted you previously about Ed Rendell’s anti-gun legislation packages, urging you to vote against them and stand for my rights as a resident of this Commonwealth. Upon checking the vote tallies from that session, I am very pleased to see that HB18 and HB22 failed miserably (and according to the news accounts, within 10 minutes). I do find it unfortunate that HB29 did not meet a similar end. HB29, if enacted, would do nothing to stop crime from happening, crime happens in opposition to the law, that’s what makes it crime (the very essence of a criminal is someone that does not obey the law).

While I can understand the temptation to succumb to such weak and reactionary measures to give the appearance of doing something about the problem of crime in the face of such public and political pressure, this measure is simply too indiscriminate and has the potential to slip the innocent victims of crime into the crosshairs of law enforcement. I hope I can continue to count on you to further resist measures such as HB18, and any other like it in the future, and I once again implore you to come to your senses regarding HB22, HB29 or similar legislation and spend your energies on pursuits that would actually have an effect on crime without giving over to the potential to harm innocent gun owners.

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Well I am finished with my letters for thanks and disapproval for the antis.
All are complete and emailed, and Yes I did express myself to both the AYE's and NAY'S
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I emailed the entire Committee expressing my vehement opposition to these bills, as well as calling the local representative from my area.

Don't let our collective guard down, folks. There's still battles to be fought over the rampant stupidity of government trying to take our rights away.:
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My rep is Frankel, I sent him this letter:

Mr. Frankel,

I have wrote you before. I do not understand why you constantly vote to restrict my rights. I have lived in Squirrel Hill / Greenfield all my life, so does my family. We are resposible productive members of society and we are gun owners. I urge you to come to your senses on these awful feel-good bills that only hurt those of us that obey the law. How was I to buy my son his target .22 pistol and my wife a new self defense pistol for christmas on my one bonus check with the one gun a month bill. Or if I had bought a gun and decided I didnt like it and would trade it in on a new one. How could I possibly continue to obey the law if each municipality had its own gun laws? How could I keep up on them all? And how would this stop the crime on our streets?!?! I would think that the simple wording of our state constitution was clear, "The right of the people to bear arms shall not be questioned." I ,sir, believe in the rule of law. I hope you will see the absurdity of your votes, and chose to stand beside the law abiding voters who pay your wages through our taxes.



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Here is the response I received for Will Gabig to my email about Fast Eddie's plea. As you can see, Mr. Gabig is a true defender of our gun rights!

You can count on me to oppose these bills. We have sufficient laws in this state to deal with criminals if they were enforced properly. These bills will only affect law-abiding citizens who have the right to bear arms.

William I. Gabig, Member
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>>> Erica Reall <enwreall@yahoo.com> 11/16/2007 9:52 AM >>>
Hon. Will Gabig

Please take all action required to block any movement
to bring HB18, HB22 and HB29 out of committee. These
bills, all created by Philadelphia liberals, are
designed specifically to errode the liberties of
Pennsylvanians and have no impact on gun crimes.

Someone in the legislature, and I hope it will be you,
needs to stand up to Rendell and his follwers from
Philadelphia. They need to know that Pennsylvania is
more than just Philadelphia and we do not agree with
their anti-gun/anti-freedom ideas.

I understand that the Democrats are using the
unfortunate events in Philadelphia where police
officers have been shot and killed to push their
agenda, but laws are of no consequence to criminals.

Please bring some common sense to the PA legislature
about this subject and stop these attacks on our
liberties.

Respectfully,
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Here is the response I received for Will Gabig to my email about Fast Eddie's plea. As you can see, Mr. Gabig is a true defender of our gun rights!

You can count on me to oppose these bills. We have sufficient laws in this state to deal with criminals if they were enforced properly. These bills will only affect law-abiding citizens who have the right to bear arms.

William I. Gabig, Member
199th Legislative District
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Carlisle, PA 17013
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Yeah, except, Gabig voted for HB29...
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