Is Bicycle considered on foot or in a vehicle?

[Hawk]

Originally Posted by Zef_66

I read your post and clicked on the link. But I didn't see anything there that said that a bicycle is considered a vehicle in PA. The link I posted shows how some states differ on the matter if a bicycle is a vehicle. And the link that XD45 posted states exactly "In Pennsylvania, a bicycle is considered a vehicle and, as such, is governed by a general set of rules (common to all vehicles) and a specific set of rules (designed for bicycles)." So not that we didn't believe you, I was just looking for more proof.

Guess I needed to point out the button on the bottom of the left side of that page pointing to the PA vehicle code covering bicycles - my bad.

Hawk,

[Zef_66]

Just an FYI taken from here:

Vehicle—Every device in, upon, or by which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway, except devices used exclusively upon rails or tracks.

Pedalcycle—A vehicle propelled solely by human-powered pedals.

[soberbyker]

Originally Posted by LorDiego01

all your bases are covered, instead of all your bases being belong to them.
(har har! A cookie to whoever gets this pun!)

Fork it over buddy ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qItugh-fFgg
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[Hawk]

Off topic - I would love to car-door a few of those bicyclist that don't follow the law. I would probably be car-dooring all day long. I guess a $10 fine is no incentive to abide by the law, and probably no LEO would bother pulling a bicycle over, and probably most bicyclist don't even know they are suppose to follow most of the same rules as motor vehicle drivers.

Rant over.

Hawk,

[XD45]

Originally Posted by Hawk

Off topic - I would love to car-door a few of those bicyclist that don't follow the law. I would probably be car-dooring all day long. I guess a $10 fine is no incentive to abide by the law, and probably no LEO would bother pulling a bicycle over, and probably most bicyclist don't even know they are suppose to follow most of the same rules as motor vehicle drivers.

Rant over.

Hawk,

agreed they are freakin nuts out there, straight threw red lights and all that...

[GunLawyer001]

I hate to throw a monkey wrench into the debate, but I have to point out that the definitions of words will vary from statute to statute, and even within a chapter.

"Firearm" has perhaps a dozen different meanings within the Uniform Firearms Act; sometimes it includes just pistols and SBR's, sometimes it excludes antiques, sometimes it includes everything that spits bullets. Depends on the context.

So, however the Motor Vehicle Code defines "vehicle" is not dispositive of how the UFA will treat the word, and it especially won't control what's "in" a vehicle.

To be certain, you'd need to review all the appellate cases that interpreted that exact statute. Dictionaries have surprisingly little utility in court cases, unless there's no other way to find meaning in a phrase. You also can't export definitions from one statute into another.

Much like Humpty Dumpty, when legislators use a word, it means whatever they want it to mean. That's why a silencer is a "firearm" under Federal law.

[Pierce8468]

think the question to ask is, can you get a DUI on a bicycle? If so, it's a vehicle.[/quote]

Yes you most certainly can get a D.U.I on a bicycle!

[MarcS]

not going to bother reading the thread since this has been gone over in the past and the legal minds on this board came to the conclusion that it depends what the definition of "in" is.

In my personal opinion, you can not be "in" a bicycle, only on it. Open carry on a bicycle is therefore not prohibited. The reason you can not open carry in a vehicle is because it is effectively concealed.

[Mtbkski]

OK, am I In a motorcycle???? Lets get silly now.

[MarcS]

Originally Posted by Mtbkski

OK, am I In a motorcycle???? Lets get silly now.

That was actually the original context we discussed it under. Unless you ride in the saddle bag, no