Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by
knight0334
Private property within 1000ft of a school is exempt of the law. So are persons with a license/permit issued by the state in which the school is located.
Does a non resident PA permit cover someone in that case from the PA law? I know the federal law is strange.
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by
bluedog46
Does a non resident PA permit cover someone in that case from the PA law? I know the federal law is strange.
The statute as I read it makes to distinction between resident/non-resident. Only that the permit be issued by the state where the school is located.
IANAL.
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by
bluedog46
Does a non resident PA permit cover someone in that case from the PA law? I know the federal law is strange.
A "non-resident" and "resident" LTCF is the same thing. PA doesn't have "Non-Resident" LTCF's - PA just issues to non-residents as well as residents.
A LTCF protects a person, whether resident or not, within a school zone that is located within PA.
The law says something to the effect of "if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license; ". A person that resides in a state other than PA, but has a PA LTCF, is "licensed to do so".
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by
Rblakely
Yes - also please note:
You don't even need to search the forum. Read the first page of the thread you are on.
The reason I asked was because the first page was in 2007. The way they keep adding gun laws daily I figured I'm in violation just walking outside the house.
Thx. for the reply.
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by
ideaman
The reason I asked was because the first page was in 2007. The way they keep adding gun laws daily I figured I'm in violation just walking outside the house.
Thx. for the reply.
Neither PA or the federal government has added a new gun law in years.
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by
ideaman
The reason I asked was because the first page was in 2007. The way they keep adding gun laws daily I figured I'm in violation just walking outside the house.
Thx. for the reply.
If you check the bottom of our friendly moderator Knight0334's original post on page one you'll see it was last edited in January of this year. How he keeps up with this stuff is beyond me - he's a better man than me gunga din.
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
Here's 89 of them. I know it says proposed but.....
http://amgoa.org/Proposed-Pennsylvania-Gun-Laws
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by
ideaman
Holy crap monkeys Batman!
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
The other day, my wife and my son and I drove to the public welfare building in downtown Pittsburgh to submit some paperwork. I dropped wifey off, then parked the car with my son a few blocks away. I was carrying my little .45 on my hip, under my jacket, mostly unnoticeable. So sonny and I walked in the fridgid cold several blocks to the building, and up two floors to the welfare office to find my wife. Then we go down several winding hallways and come to a short line of people stretching outside the office door. We follow, and in a minute I'm arround the corner...and staring at a sign telling me that there are no firearms allowed in the (state) welfare office. I seriously doubt they posted this information on their website. What a serious pain!
This means that theoretically I have to walk across half the metro área unarmed ( a place where I might be more likely to need my weapon ) just because their office doesn't allow it. I am actually usually fairly responsable about this, and check the signs posted on the door of every building I enter just to make sure.
What pisses me off is that this doesn't really follow a unified rule...and it seems that government offices should follow very unified rules. For instance, "all federal buildings" is as simple and straightforward as you can get. While I would prefer to have my weapon with me always, at least I can't blame the federal government for being vague, cryptic or inconsitent with their signage. I've been on other Pennsylvania state grounds before where no such signs were posted, so the welfare office took me by surprise.
Interestingly, all the security gaurds in the welfare office did not appear to be carrying firearms. Great. So then we are ALL sitting ducks when some disgruntled down-and-outer who's been denied assitance decides to whip one out and start blowing people away. Good guys have to obey the sign, and bad guys won't. Yet nobody is checked and even the gaurds don't have guns. Pretty obvious the position that this puts us all in. Thanks, P.A.. How did your rule make everyone safer????
Re: READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania
There are various reasons people go to a welfare office. Just reading the name though reminded me of something I needed to share as I started thinking of this experience in 2012 in Delaware. This is more of a laugh than gun issue.
A friend needed to put a paper in regarding a housing voucher ( I believe) and needed a ride, which the wife and I gave her.
God as my witness there was a tall think 20s black man standing against the wall by the sign that sad Delaware department of health and human services ( welfare, food stamps, section 8 , wic so forth) with a black t-shirt on that had a huge picture of Obama on it. it was not a presidential but had Obama in colors red, black and green ( black nationalist, pan-Africa and so forth).
In addition to laughing my a&& off about how this kid did not realize how funny that is and how many punchlines and stereotypes he created.
I was attempting to get a picture with my cell phone when he asked what I was doing and told him. Suffice to say I wont repeat what he said, but I think he finally realized what an idiot he was.