READ FIRST: Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania

[knight0334]

added Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground explanations for PA law.

Lawyers, please feel free to advise changes.

[Machinist]

3. State Parks and other reserves maintained by the PA DCNR - by regulation 17 PA. CODE, PART I, Subpart B, Subsection 11.215

http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/statepar...wrulesregs.pdf

I am not seeing that concealed carry is unlawful in state parks. I see that uncasing is unlawful. Nor does mention prohibitions on LTCF.

Does everyone agree?

[LittleRedToyota]

Originally Posted by Machinist

3. State Parks and other reserves maintained by the PA DCNR - by regulation 17 PA. CODE, PART I, Subpart B, Subsection 11.215

http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/statepar...wrulesregs.pdf

I am not seeing that concealed carry is unlawful in state parks. I see that uncasing is unlawful. Nor does mention prohibitions on LTCF.

Does everyone agree?

i don't agree. a carried pistol is "uncased". a holster doesn't count as a case.

[Machinist]

Is there some code that defines "cased"?

[Pennywise]

Originally Posted by knight0334

Yes, that was addressed a few years ago. The ATF released a letter(was either open or direct) and sided on the gun bearing person needing a license/permit from the state in which the school is located. Reciprocal coverage will not protect you from the federal law.

Folks with a PA LTCF would be exempt from the federal law within 1000ft of a school in PA. Those carrying under reciprocal agreement with a license from another state would NOT be exempt under the federal law.

PA's own law has a provision for other lawful purposes - but even PA LTCF persons risk arrest yet.

Does this include driving within 1000 feet with a non-res permit?

[lildobe]

Originally Posted by BobbySomers

Does this include driving within 1000 feet with a non-res permit?

Yes. A reciprocal OR non-resident permit has all of the rights and privileges as a resident's permit in PA.

[Pa. Patriot]

Originally Posted by lildobe

Yes. A reciprocal OR non-resident permit has all of the rights and privileges as a resident's permit in PA.

Not quite.

A reciprocal license extends you all of Pa.'s privileges.

The Fed GFSZ act specifically only exempts license holders in the state they are licensed.

SO no, reciprocal license will not cover you for the 1000ft fed law.

No ref right now, on the way out the door...I will post ref later if someone doesn't.

[headcase]

Originally Posted by lildobe

Yes. A reciprocal OR non-resident permit has all of the rights and privileges as a resident's permit in PA.

Originally Posted by knight0334
Yes, that was addressed a few years ago. The ATF released a letter(was either open or direct) and sided on the gun bearing person needing a license/permit from the state in which the school is located. Reciprocal coverage will not protect you from the federal law.

Folks with a PA LTCF would be exempt from the federal law within 1000ft of a school in PA. Those carrying under reciprocal agreement with a license from another state would NOT be exempt under the federal law.

PA's own law has a provision for other lawful purposes - but even PA LTCF persons risk arrest yet.

These two things conflict with each other.


There has been argument that the federal law does not allow for out of state permits, but I believe that the logical argument that:

a.) If the state recognizes the other states permit, it has, in fact and deed, accepted the legality of that permit and considers you licensed in it's boundries.

b.) To legally interpret the federal law as not allowing reciprical licensing to be valid steps all over the rights of the state to enter into valid legal agreements

C.) Interpreting the federal law as not allowing for reciprical validity would effectively make a recripricity agreement useless, in that there is almost no possible way to traverse a state without passing within 1000 feet of a school.

clearly determins how the GFSZA has to be read, and enforced. Throwing opinions on this topic into this thread as facts, is not helpful to new readers............

[lildobe]

Yeah, I stand corrected. I was under the impression that the FGFSZ act exempted ANYONE with a CCW/LTCF, not just residents.

However, what of a non-resident with a PA-LTCF?

[Pennywise]

Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot

Not quite.

A reciprocal license extends you all of Pa.'s privileges.

The Fed GFSZ act specifically only exempts license holders in the state they are licensed.

SO no, reciprocal license will not cover you for the 1000ft fed law.

No ref right now, on the way out the door...I will post ref later if someone doesn't.

So, Being that I live within 1000 feet from a school a Florida Non-Resident permit would do me no good. I guess I should just apply for my PA LTCF and hope for the best because I definately cannot afford to appeal a denial.
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