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Default IF YOU HAVE A BEER AND ARE CARRYING...

I UNDERSTAND IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE, PERSAY YOU ARE CARRYING AND YOU ARE OUT TO EAT AND HAVE A BEER,IS IT UNLAWFUL OR DOES THE .08 BAC APPLY..THANKS
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Good question.
I do not think there is any statute prohibiting consuming alcohol in a public venue while carrying a handgun (cc or oc)

Remember that the issuing authority (Co. Sheriff) CAN revoke your LTCF for "good reason". I would venture a guess that being intoxicated while carrying would be hard to defend as not being a "good reason" in court, statute or no statute. But I am only speculating on this point.

Common sense of course dictates one should not become intoxicated while carrying a firearm, particularly in public But again, I know of no statues but will look when I get a spare minute.

Personally I generally do NOT consume alcohol while carrying in public with only the occasional single beverage at a social event or diner, etc. But a single beverage would be the limit. All these exceptions have been while CC'ing. I have never consumed alcohol while OC'ing in public, but have been known to down a couple at home while OC'ing

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everything i'm about to say is what some people would call an opinion but here it goes..

I dont know that theres a law on this that says you cant have a firearm on you if your over the limit to drive. This being said even if you are drink and did get cleared in the criminal case because it turns out its not on the books and was justified, your sure to be torn apart in the civil suit(my opinion). But one or possibly two drinks most likley wont put you over the .08.. I dont know that I would drink while OCing just to avoid any possible conflicts about it, it's already such a touchy subject we dont need to put more gas on the fire.
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First, it is considered bad form to post a thread in all capital letters - it is considered the same as shouting.

Second, concerning revocations, the Uniform Firearms Act states the following:

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A license to carry firearms may be revoked by the issuing authority for good cause. A license to carry firearms shall be revoked by the issuing authority for any reason stated in subsection (e)(1) which occurs during the term of the permit. Notice of revocation shall be in writing and shall state the specific reason for revocation.
Reasons for revocation are as follows:
  • An individual whose character and reputation is such that the individual would be likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety.
  • An individual who is a habitual drunkard.

Looks to me like one or two beers won't affect your license unless you do something really, really stupid. Character and reputation? Might be hard to make that stick absent any due process. One DUI won't get you classified as a habitual drunkard, although more than one might.

Packing heat? Don't get tipsy.
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...it's already such a touchy subject we dont need to put more gas on the fire.
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Packing heat? Don't get tipsy.
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Being an armed individual and a biker, I try not to get too stupid as far as the drinking goes. Not that I give a sh*t about what people may think about it, but, I think common sense would dictate that you keep your wits about you if you plan to be able to defend yourself in a situation, plus the fact that I don't need to be crashing a $20,000 motorcycle.
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I like the comparison, Tes. Being armed and driving both carry huge and similar responsibilities.
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when you've got a gun you've gotta kind of present yourself differently. Maybe in a way a local politician would, or a police officer(and not in the crimesolving way, sorry mall ninjas) but just in a respectful non drunkard manor, you shouldnt be aggressive towards anyone you dont need to be pissed at the world. just a friendly, non conflictive manor

i dont know maybe that doesnt make sense but thats sort of the way i see it
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It's not illegal to drink with your gun on, njor is it irresponsible to have a beer with dinner. It is only irresponsible to drink irresponsibly with a gun on. That depends on a number of factors including your alcohol tolerance and your known behavior when drinking.
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Default Re: IF YOU HAVE A BEER AND ARE CARRYING...

I've only been completely smashed while packing once.

I don't usually get heavily intoxicated but when I do, I know I always have control of myself and I'm a happy drunk so it's not so bad.

Back when I used to party I could wake up still drunk, and still remember what happened all the night at the party.

But in the case of the only time I was packing and got to the level where I knew I was hanging up my key's and crashing was after my buddies mom died. I knew I was around friends, and didn't have much to worry about.

If I were to ever go to another party, I would probably leave it locked up in my car. The reason is simple, after I drink a lot I usually stay over where I am at. My main concern is if I fall asleep and someone sees my gun while they are drunk. If I'm asleep, what are they going to do. I'm not sure which number this rule would be but.

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