side arm carrying before 21?

[MarcS]

Originally Posted by rand

Hey Triggerh4ppy,

Before you know it, one day you're gonna be 21 years old. The years fly by so fast, and it's really just around the corner hang in there man.

Before you know it, he'll be 21, or he'll be an 3yo corpse because he listened to people on this forum and didn't adequately prepare himself to deal with the violent criminals in this world.

[dnar]

Originally Posted by MarcS

Before you know it, he'll be 21, or he'll be an 3yo corpse because he listened to people on this forum and didn't adequately prepare himself to deal with the violent criminals in this world.

Hey MarcS,

I've always thought that training was a given, at any age?

Rand

[jdlv4_0]

Allow me to clarify, I was asking "Why would you want to carry an old six shot single action handgun." Not a handgun in general.

I'd still like to see any legislation or case history giving it the OK. I don't know of any hence all the IIRCs in my original post. I don't like to speak in definites without documentation on hand.

I don't think it's a good idea for the same reason that MarcS does, police.

You can't go a week here without reading about someone who got stopped or asked police about open carry and the police were uneducated in the law.

Add the fact that your under 21 and OCing, that's a recipe for heart ache.

However Lancaster has been reported as being open carry friendly.

Personally I think you should focus on a martial art and and get some good training, and as stated before get some good OC spray and a decent knife.

If you can work out a way to get a quality handgun "gifted" to you, DO SO and start training with it.

It takes a lot of work to get proficient with a single action revolver, add in the black powder aspect and you better carry 3 of them so you don't have to try and reload.

[MarcS]

that's more reasonable.

I carried OC, a knife and a 21' collapsible baton. Some people think a baton is a grey area in the law, but it's less of an issue because it's concealed.

The only way you can get away with carrying a handgun is open carry, in which case you open yourself to a lot of legal troubles, albeit unwarranted.

[Punisher]

hey guys - just to throw my thoughts in here - age has nothing to do with it - i'm 20 and married and i have to say that when it comes to protecting your family, you quickly become mature enough to own and carry a handgun - as for martial arts and a baton - get real - i've taken martial arts for quite a while now and trained with knives/batons and i'll tell you what - i don't care if you're a master martial artist - someone pulls a gun on you and your family - your royally fucked. if it's someone threatening you without a gun (at least me) - i wouldn't find it legally applicable to use my gun in that situation anyway. i plan on going to my local pd (small town) in the next couple of days and explaining to them that i plan on open carrying until i am old enough to get my ccw - that way they'll have a heads up and i'm also going to get a lawyer who will back me if shit ever hits the fan. carrying a gun to look tough - that's lame - for protection and because you can and should take on the duty to protect yourself and others (ESPECIALLY if you train for these things and have that mindset) - that's the reason we all should do what we do.............

[jsb889]

Originally Posted by MarcS

1) I assure you I'm not the only one who made a commitment to being proficient, safe and responsible with a handgun before i turned 21. You made a blanket statement about all 18-20 year olds. When i was in that age range, i would have taken great offense to that statement.

2) I gave this forum an example of someone: Myself. While the discussion is not about me, how do you know that triggerh4ppy hasn't made a similar commitment?

Don't condemn someone based on their age, frankly, it doesn't mean shit.

Hey man, calm down. Now, myself, I'm currently in that age range, I'm sure not offended because I know exactly where he is comming from. I'm 17, and I know if I had a weapon that I could open carry, I would practice until proficent and I felt the need, I would. But, thats not to say just because you, I and possibly him are smart enough to do that, doesn't mean that everyone in the age range has the responsibility to do so. Myself, I feel 21 is too low of an age, but thats another story. Many people under 21 are irresponsiable and shouldn't be trusted with the significant responibility given to someone who carrys a firearm. Sure, theres exceptions, but damn near all the ones I've ever met (and thats a lot) are not responsiable in the least bit. I'd personally be a little afraid if they carried airsoft pistols. If they were the exeption and were carrying for self defense ONLY (not looking like the big tough guy) and knew their weapon, I'd feel perfectly safe.

Age doesn't mean anything, but experience does. And experience is usually in the hands of the older.

[JustinM]

Originally Posted by dwhite725

if it's someone threatening you without a gun (at least me) - i wouldn't find it legally applicable to use my gun in that situation anyway.

Knife?

Chain?

Sap?

Multiple attackers?

Baton?

[Nate]

Originally Posted by jsb889

...Age doesn't mean anything, but experience does. And experience is usually in the hands of the older.

You got it buddy.

Originally Posted by dwhite725

hey guys - just to throw my thoughts in here - age has nothing to do with it - i'm 20 and married and i have to say that when it comes to protecting your family, you quickly become mature enough to own and carry a handgun - as for martial arts and a baton - get real - i've taken martial arts for quite a while now and trained with knives/batons and i'll tell you what - i don't care if you're a master martial artist - someone pulls a gun on you and your family - your royally fucked. if it's someone threatening you without a gun (at least me) - i wouldn't find it legally applicable to use my gun in that situation anyway. i plan on going to my local pd (small town) in the next couple of days and explaining to them that i plan on open carrying until i am old enough to get my ccw - that way they'll have a heads up and i'm also going to get a lawyer who will back me if shit ever hits the fan. carrying a gun to look tough - that's lame - for protection and because you can and should take on the duty to protect yourself and others (ESPECIALLY if you train for these things and have that mindset) - that's the reason we all should do what we do.............

I agree 100%, and you do mature very quickly when married. I felt the need to carry when my wife and I were on our honeymoon and at a club a drunk 300lb guy fell into my wife and he was trying to get me to fight. We ran away and his friends pulled him away. But what if he had followed us? What if we couldn't run away? That is when a gun went from being cool to being necessary.

[TwistedCopper]

Originally Posted by JustinM

Tueller drill, anybody??

That's not really applicable. That drill is done with a knife attacker and the defender has a holstered weapon and hands at shoulder height.

He was suggesting that defending a handgun attack (when the gun is already presented and likey already sighted on you) with a knife is futile.

He's right.

[bubba23]

You young whipper snappers don't know how good you have it...back when I was your age............