Is this legal? LTCF Question

[knight0334]

Originally Posted by BobCav

OK, I'm game to play. I just moved to Lancaster and still have a valid VA CHP so I'm covered to conceal and carry in the car, but I prefer OC anyway.

My question is this. Isn't the proof of residency requirement redundant and extra-legal since I've already stated my residence on the application and signed it under penalty of law? This was/is an issue in Fairfax VA and down there you could submit with no SSN or proof of residency and they had to issue due to it being a "shall-issue" state. Anyone tried this yet up here?

Also, the Lancaster County "second form" is titled "INSTRUCTIONS FOR FIREARMS PERMIT APPLICANTS" and yet it requests further personal info. Sure it's splitting hairs but it's either instructions or additional info or both. They need to call it what it is. I think I'll call them them on that also so they know that their program is under scrutiny.

Thoughts?

Can you scan that second form for us?

[BobCav]

Originally Posted by knight0334

Can you scan that second form for us?

Here's the pdf from the sheriff's website:
http://www.co.lancaster.pa.us/sherif...p?a=3&q=577251

[Bruce]

Originally Posted by BobCav

Here's the pdf from the sheriff's website:
http://www.co.lancaster.pa.us/sherif...p?a=3&q=577251

As far as I can see, five questions do indeed seem redundant to the (generally believed as) "uniform" PSP application (such as the app. from York County). The first question on this Lancaster 'instruction sheet' asking for "your current police agency" seems completely without merit to me. Why would they need such information? Why would they expect you, as an applicant for a license, to provide it?

My best guess is that, as a courtesy, this Sheriff will inform the various "police agencies" of new licensees in their respective jurisdictions. If this is the case, there may be even more "illegal practices" going on with the Sheriff as it is my understanding that, by law, your application (and records pertaining to them) are supposed to be kept confidential.

Of course, this is only my guess.
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[BobCav]

I may very well state "Not a member of any police agency" in that block. When asked I'll explain that their "instruction sheet" is obviously lacking in instructions!

After formally critiquing their form, perhaps I'll hand them a corrected copy the way it SHOULD read. Who knows, maybe they'll use it!

[Statkowski]

Revised "instruction sheet":

LANCASTER COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE

READ CAREFULLY! INSTRUCTIONS FOR FIREARMS PERMIT APPLICANTS

1. Applicant must be at least 21 years of age, and reside in Lancaster County. Proof of age and residency must be furnished when application is submitted (for example, Pa. Drivers License or Pa. Photo ID card). A post office box number will NOT be accepted as a legal residence.

2. Complete the Lancaster County application form. Form must be filled out legibly and completely by typing or printing in black or blue ink or it may not be accepted. You must bring this application documents to the Sheriff’s Office personally. A payment of $25.00 CASH (or money order made payable to the Sheriff of Lancaster County) is required when submitting your application. Following an investigation, you will be notified by mail, as to whether your application has been approved or rejected. If rejected, a service fee of $6.00 will be withheld and you will receive a refund of $19.00. NOTICE: The furnishing of false information or offering false evidence of identity is a violation of Section 4904 (relating to unsworn falsification to authorities)