Kydex/Fobus/Plasticky Holsters?

[roland]

I'm having visions of Emptymag going beltless.....................ick!

An adjustable holster is ok in USPSA. The gun can't point more than 10 degrees rearward, I think, Lycan will know the answer better than I. It is also the same as forward. Make sense?

[Emptymag]

Originally Posted by roland

I'm having visions of Emptymag going beltless.....................ick!

An adjustable holster is ok in USPSA. The gun can't point more than 10 degrees rearward, I think, Lycan will know the answer better than I. It is also the same as forward. Make sense?

So rearward is the same as forward? Is that what you're saying? Interesting.
Hmmmm. when I go to lunch today I think I'll try that concept and put the truck in reverse. Theoretically, would I use less gas by driving in reverse?

[roland]

Uh, I was trying to say the holster can point 10 degrees forward of verical to 10 degrees rearward, for a range of 20 degrees, thats how I understand it.

[Emptymag]

Originally Posted by roland

Uh, I was trying to say the holster can point 10 degrees forward of verical to 10 degrees rearward, for a range of 20 degrees, thats how I understand it.

So I'd get 20 degrees more mileage if I wore my adjustable holster backwards?


I'll just look up the rules on the web! THANKS Roland! I think I understand!

[Lycanthrope]

Originally Posted by Emptymag

Lycanthrop,
You posted this before...QUESTION:
I have ZERO experience with these organizations, but I think they do IPSC/USPSA at my club (PMSC).

1. Are you saying that for IDPA the holster must be totally NON-ADJUSTABLE? (could I use the SERPA in the vertical position or is it ruled out due to adjustability?)

2. For USPSA, The holster CAN be adjustable, vertical OR rearward ONLY? (not forward?)

The reason I ask, is that in order to keep the Glock from printing AND to make it WEARABLE while driving, it seems that I need to position it in the FORWARD cant position. If I am unable to use the holster/gun in these events the way I would CARRY, there isn't much sense trying them.

Yes, PMSC has USPSA....not IDPA. USPSA is harder to attain a higher classification. It's a faster game.

Yes, per IDPA it can't be adjustable. (yeah, we all bitched, it's why IDPA has dropped off in our area).

For cant, in USPSA you need to have the muzzle be pointing within 1m of your feet when standing up.

As for the "sense" in trying the games dependent on your carry hoster I have only one thing to say:

Two years of either one of those games and you will be faster and more accurate by a factor of 3 with any gun/gear. What you have previously thought was fast/accurate will be redefined.

The games are not training, but they will teach you to use the gun at a level you would likely never attain on your own.

http://www.uspsa.org/rules/Handgun_15th_2004.pdf

[Emptymag]

Two years of either one of those games and you will be faster and more accurate by a factor of 3 with any gun/gear. What you have previously thought was fast/accurate will be redefined.

The games are not training, but they will teach you to use the gun at a level you would likely never attain on your own.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying there... I just know that I can't afford to do the USPSA thing on a regular basis due to cost/time factors, so my thinking is that I'd prefer to only run something like that with "real" gear.
Worst case scenario, I could watch/practice up at the club a few times and continue with that type of "practice" on my own as time permits. Either way, I want to start practicing more "realistic" shooting instead of standing and pointing at a target with a handgun I just picked up off a table.

Thanks for the info!

I think Roland was trying those Jedi mind tricks on me!

[LittleRedToyota]

Originally Posted by Emptymag

I just know that I can't afford to do the USPSA thing on a regular basis due to cost/time factors, so my thinking is that I'd prefer to only run something like that with "real" gear.

thursday night practice is only $3. and you can spend as much (well, until 9PM) or as little time as you want. it's a lot of fun and mark and others are always more than willing to help out with tips and pointers if you like.

then you can also do the drills you learn on your own anytime you want at the IPSC shooting bays up around back. i made some of my own target stands to use up there on my own outta scrap 2x4s and 1x2s i have laying around. i could make a couple for you too, if you want.

[Emptymag]

Originally Posted by LittleRedToyota

thursday night practice is only $3. and you can spend as much (well, until 9PM) or as little time as you want. it's a lot of fun and mark and others are always more than willing to help out with tips and pointers if you like.

then you can also do the drills you learn on your own anytime you want at the IPSC shooting bays up around back. i made some of my own target stands to use up there on my own outta scrap 2x4s and 1x2s i have laying around. i could make a couple for you too, if you want.

HEY! Stop trying to hijack my thread about cheap, crappy holsters!

Kidding! I'd love to stop up one night, it's just tough to do (time).
I appreciate the offer to make me the target stands, but perhaps you can just show me how to build one. My wife would LOVE it if I were to put all of those scraps of wood in the garage to use!

[Lycanthrope]

Who said you need different gear?

"Production Division" is all about stock guns and Kydex holsters are the holsters of choice. 10 round limits and no race gear.

USPSA isn't just about race guns.......

[Johannes_Paulsen]

Just thought I'd revive this thread because (a) it's a good thread, and (b) I went holster shopping this weekend and checked out a Fobus.

I went down to Anthony Arms specifically because I'd seen that they had a Fobus paddle holster that was supposed to fit my Kahr MK9 last time I used their indoor range. (Fobus Model KA1) Since I'd had a good experience using a kydex holster at the FIRE Institute pistol class over at PMSC a few months ago, I was interested in getting a holster for OWB use at the range and (occasionally) for concealment under shirt/jacket.

Wow. Neither I nor the guy at the shop could even get the MK9 into the holster. After a while, we just stopped struggling with it, because we were afraid that even if we DID get it in, we'd never get it out.

After looking around at a few other holster (including a painful experience with an IWB,) I settled on a Galco Stinger. It cost twice as much as the Fobus, but it looks and feels so good that this may become my preferred method of carry. (Up until now, I'd been pocket carrying.) Even with just an untucked t-shirt on the holster+gun really isn't that visible. And with a vest/jacket, it disappears.

Thanks to everyone who offered their opinions on this thread. Before I saw it, I'd been thinking about buying a Fobus holster I saw for sale on eBay..... After reading it, I figured I'd better try one out first. Saved me a headache.

(Not to bash Fobus -- I mean, if some people have good experiences with them, so much the better. It definitely wasn't for me, though.)


P.S. I think this is the video Justin was talking about: http://media.putfile.com/gungrab-fobus