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i haven't been pulled over for a while now ( thankfully) though i don't think i would inform unless asked to step out or asked directly then i would hand him my LTCF and say yes sir i have one pistol on my hip or in my console...


on a side note something i always have done when being pulled over, i pull over as far as possible so the officer has room to get to me without threat of traffic, just seams easier.

i also try to angle the car a bit so he can see into the car easier, during the evening i always turn on my interior lights and put my hands on the wheel,, usually i can get my wallet out and my seatbelt on before i get stopped, put the wallet on the dash and my hands on the wheel..
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Solid point about "best interests"... that pretty much ties it together in a neat package.
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2. Eye Contact...
Make eye contact with the officer. Nothing says "I'm crazy" or "I have something to hide" like the 1000 yard stare down the roadway. This behavior has led to several searches, arrests, and some altercations upon further investigation.

3. Smile!
Like Mr. Rourke of Fantasy Island was fond of saying "Smiles everybody, smiles!" Make eye contact and smile. It will let the officer know that he can communicate with you.

Gunlawyer covered the rest well enough. On the points above though, how exactly am I supposed to make eye contact with someone standing behind the B pillar of my car while seated and belted in with hands at 10 and 2?

As for the "Smile!", my only comment would be fuck you officer Peters. You have arrested me and I am no longer at liberty to control myself. While I may have been speeding or not, I am not happy to see you, and will not smile for you. Give me my speeding tax bill and go revenue someone else.

Here's some advice for officer friendly:

Don't write me a ticket that you wouldn't write for any members of your own police force if they were off duty and doing the same thing.

When you stop acting like it's us vs. them, with them being anyone but a cop or D.A., I'll stop acting like it too. Don't forget to smile!!
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Default Re: Pulled Over While Carrying... Advice from an LEO

I have been thinking about this particular situation a lot lately. I have not been pulled over in a long time and never while I had an LTCF. I too have made the decision to not disclose unless asked if there are any weapons or if asked to step out of car as it is not the law to do so.

The one thing I am unsure of is if an officer did ask and i disclose and the LEO wants me to hand it over, do I empty the pistol before handing it over or let the officer do so? (make him aware that you are unloading and do it safely of course)

I have a friend that disclosed and the leo wanted the pistol handed over. he unloaded and locked the slide open, kept the mag and handed the pistol over. The officer asked why he did this and my friend said, "I don't hand my loaded weapon to anybody, not even a police officer. the leo just kind of smiled and when the discussion was over about the traffic stop, he handed the weapon back to my friend.
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As for the "Smile!", my only comment would be fuck you officer Peters. You have arrested me and I am no longer at liberty to control myself. While I may have been speeding or not, I am not happy to see you, and will not smile for you. Give me my speeding tax bill and go revenue someone else.
Yeah, smiling would be a bit much... if I were a cop, I'd worry if I saw the person smiling.
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Hmmm every time I drive through a not so hot area, especially at night, my gun is laying on the passenger seat. Much quicker access than if it were holstered. According to this guy, that's a no-no if I were to get pulled over? Whatever.
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Hmmm every time I drive through a not so hot area, especially at night, my gun is laying on the passenger seat. Much quicker access than if it were holstered. According to this guy, that's a no-no if I were to get pulled over? Whatever.
I wouldn't recommend that. Stop short because the dirt bag who is going to jack your car walks in front of you, and your gun is now on the floor...

I would practice drawing from the holster in your car (watch that windshield).

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I wouldn't recommend that. Stop short because the dirt bag who is going to jack your car walks in front of you, and your gun is now on the floor...

I would practice drawing from the holster in your car (watch that windshield).

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Yankees??? Those are all them bums I see on the golf course right?

Shouldn't say much unless crap turns around soon my boys will be out there with them.
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Respect is a mutual thing ,YOU GOT TO GIVE IT,TO GET IT.You carry,you become the poster child,like it or not.You make us proud out there.

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