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A gunman walked into a church today in knoxville Tn and opened fire. Six were injured and thirteen shots fired before they subdued the man. I wonder if my priest would frown upon me OCing on sundays? I saw the story on Fox news.
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If you search the site you will find that this has been brought up several times. Search the site and you will find that the general consensus is church carry is A O.K. Even Christ told his disciples to get swords or to sell their cloaks to obtain swords in order to protect them selves on their journey.
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Never use to. But I do now (I CC). Just don't tell my mom or I think she will have a heart attack.
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God may defend the right, but I'd like to be able to defend myself if something "breaks bad," even in church. This is no different in my mind than going to the supermarket or for an evening run. CC your weapon in church, pray for peace, train for war.
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From the story: "Drevik speculated that the suspect could be suffering from mental illness. This kind of incident could have happened in "any church on this street. ... It could be in any school. ... All the more reason we have to take care of those people ... because this is the potential result."

And all the more reason to carry your sidearm in church (and everywhere).
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One person is dead and six others were injured Sunday when a man walked into a church in Knoxville, Tenn., and started shooting while kids were performing a play there.

None of the kids was hurt, according to FOX affiliate WATE-TV, who said no one at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist claimed to recognize the suspected shooter, who was taken into custody.

The children were performing the play "Annie" when the shooter entered around 10:20 a.m. ET. The victims were all taken to the University of Tennessee Medical Center, where one died.

Six people were involved in the shooting. A seventh person was taken to the hospital with a sprained ankle after trying to run away, according to Catherine Howell of WNOX Radio, a FOX affiliate. Howell said the children also went running and three were found hiding at a neighboring church.

Channing Smith, a reporter for WIVK-FM, told FOX News that the suspect had long, blond hair and was in his 40s. He was wearing jeans and a T-shirt.

"Church members say he did not appear to be a member of their church," Smith said. "They aren't sure why he was there."

Thirteen shots were fired before the man was overtaken by members of the church, who held him until police arrived.

"He started firing with a shotgun," Whitney Holmes, a reporter for WATE told FOX News. "He did not give a fight" when church members tried to stop him.

One church member told Smith the shooter may have stopped firing when he ran out of ammunition.

Steve Drevik, a member of the church who was not at the play but arrived as police were taking the suspect away, said he's heard varying estimates of the number of shots, but noted that with a shotgun, "You get that kind of scattering effect so it's quite possible that six or seven injuries doesn't mean six or seven shots.'

Drevik speculated that the suspect could be suffering from mental illness. This kind of incident could have happened in "any church on this street. ... It could be in any school. ... All the more reason we have to take care of those people ... because this is the potential result."
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Sadly, the reaction was not, "This is yet another reason Americans should carry firearms for protection.", but was, "This is another reason why the government needs to take care of insane people.". Wow, just wow.
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Sadly, the reaction was not, "This is yet another reason Americans should carry firearms for protection.", but was, "This is another reason why the government needs to take care of insane people.". Wow, just wow.
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I carry OC or CC every time I am in church - usually CC on Sunday morning in consideration of visitors and guests. Most of the regular men and women (and children!) know I carry, especially those who have been around when I am OCing! The pastor OCs from time to time as well, and we shoot together on a regular basis.

I will not tell you what you should do, but if I were in a church where they told me my gun was not welcome, I would be in a different church by the next Sunday.
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I carry OC or CC every time I am in church - usually CC on Sunday morning in consideration of visitors and guests. Most of the regular men and women (and children!) know I carry, especially those who have been around when I am OCing! The pastor OCs from time to time as well, and we shoot together on a regular basis.

I will not tell you what you should do, but if I were in a church where they told me my gun was not welcome, I would be in a different church by the next Sunday.
I stay out of organized churches that hypocrisy is just to deep for me. But If my gun is not welcomed then neither am I, that goes for churches the grocery store my Mothers house.
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