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Default Do you think licensed students should be able to CC on campus?

As a full time college student, I spend a majority of my time on campus while classes are in session. In light of recent attacks around the country and just the type of folk moving into the area, I do feel its necessary for some form of self protection while on campus. The guards at my campus and most I've visited so far are 50yo+ overweight out of shape men and women. I believe their mere presence alone is not enough to deter someone who is intent on harming me and my class mates. Most guards on campuses I've visited including my own are unarmed. They simply deter smoking in prohibited areas and drug use in plain sight. None of which are going to kill me, however, a determined attacker such as Sueng-Hui Cho from the Virginia Tech incident would probably be more worried about students trying to defend themselves rather than the current security. Most class rooms have a single entrance and exit. Those that do have windows lead to a 20 to 30 foot drop, sometimes more depending on your campus. Even then, some windows are designed by a real forward thinking architect so that they can't even be opened for escape, simply neat looking windows to let the sun in. That being said, if I was in class and some wicked person decided to come in and have his way with me and my classmates lives, there is nothing any of us could do.

Understand this, there is no way to escape, the security can do nothing but peer around the corner and keep a minute by minute update on the cell phone with 911, because their radios arent connected to the police frequency. They arent even in touch directly with the people who are coming to save our lives. As a student, I feel that I have absolutely NO protection whatsoever. This is why I believe students and professors who have been licensed by the state as LTCF holders, should be able to concealed carry on campus. Let me know what you think, your input here on this forum may go a long way, as I have begun to consider starting a chapter of the SCCC(students for concealed carry on campus) at my campus. I'm not committing to anything, I just want to see how most of you folks here in PA feel. Imagining most of you are older than me(22) I'd get a better feel for the point of view, from the past generation of what I would be dealing with if I chose to move ahead on this.
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Default Re: Do you think licensed students should be able to CC on campus?

simply put, yes.
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Default Re: Do you think licensed students should be able to CC on campus?

If it is a 'state' school or funded in such a manner that it ought to be called a state school (as I've heard various designations for places such as Penn State,) then students should be able to carry as they would in public (whatever manner prescribed by law).

If it is a private school, then it is up to the proprietor as with all private property. Use your dollar to force them to make changes, but of course they should allow students to carry in any manner practicable.
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Default Re: Do you think licensed students should be able to CC on campus?

Well my husband does PT security work at a college...he is under 50...under 40 in fact although I am not offended by your comments. I have seen the type of officers you're talking about. I am sure if someone was staking out the campus where he works they would choose a day when he was NOT working. They have more then just a firearm on them...expandable baton and OC spray as well which they have to be certified with of course. Also, there would have to be an entire fleet of people trying to storm the place because when he shoots he does not miss. I know, that sounds completely arrogant but as much as he works my last nerve (and I do not mean for pleasure) I wouldn't trust my life with anyone more then him. That said, yes, I agree that if they're licensed I don't see an issue with it. The hairy situation would be that I think they should CC while on campus and I don't know how the law would treat such a rule....
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Default Re: Do you think licensed students should be able to CC on campus?

I am in a simular position here. I to am a full time college student, and there are alot of inner city students that attend my school. So being in that type of enviroment esp. when i take night classes that sometime dont get out till 10pm and there is a 5-10 min walk across campus to get to the parking areas, that are not very well lit to being with. I think CC is a good idea for students. I want to get a chapter started at my school, but i know there would not be enough support, and its a private school, so im kind of SOL
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BTW, I asked my husband and he said he also agrees that staff and students should be allowed to CC if they have a LTCF. Of course he said it will NEVER happen. Colleges are way too liberal.
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Default Re: Do you think licensed students should be able to CC on campus?

Also, FYI...SOME college security radios ARE on a frequency with the police radios. It depends on their agreement with the local PD.
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Default Re: Do you think licensed students should be able to CC on campus?

Absofreakinglutely!

My son goes to IUP (Indiana University of PA) and they have already started a group of teachers and students to look into this exact thing ...
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