Does "printing " violate CCW rules?

[omnibus]

if someone suspects i am carrying because they see the printing of a gun in my pocket....and calls the cops...and they come and i show them my LTCF....can i lose it because i violated some regulation??

how about my jacket flies open for a second and someone sees my pistol? is that a violation too??

Thanks.........Omnibus

[headcase]

Originally Posted by omnibus

if someone suspects i am carrying because they see the printing of a gun in my pocket....and calls the cops...and they come and i show them my LTCF....can i lose it because i violated some regulation??

how about my jacket flies open for a second and someone sees my pistol? is that a violation too??

Thanks.........Omnibus

No. So? No. You're welcome.

[jofreder]

Nothing wrong with it, cops can not do anything about it. Also, your LTCF is not a CCW it is a license to carry a firearm and we can open carry anyway so it does not matter who sees it.

[Pa. Patriot]

As stated. NO

LTCF's can be revoked only foe the reasons outlines in 18PASC§6109

(i) Revocation.--A license to carry firearms may be revoked
by the issuing authority for good cause. A license to carry
firearms shall be revoked by the issuing authority for any
reason stated in subsection (e)(1) which occurs during the term
of the permit. Notice of revocation shall be in writing and
shall state the specific reason for revocation. Notice shall be
sent by certified mail to the individual whose license is
revoked, and, at that time, notice shall also be provided to the
Pennsylvania State Police by electronic means, including e-mail
or facsimile transmission, that the license is no longer valid.
An individual whose license is revoked shall surrender the
license to the issuing authority within five days of receipt of
the notice. An individual whose license is revoked may appeal to
the court of common pleas for the judicial district in which the
individual resides. An individual who violates this section
commits a summary offense.

(e) Issuance of license.--

(1) A license to carry a firearm shall be for the
purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about one's
person or in a vehicle and shall be issued if, after an
investigation not to exceed 45 days, it appears that the
applicant is an individual concerning whom no good cause
exists to deny the license. A license shall not be issued to
any of the following:

(i) An individual whose character and reputation is
such that the individual would be likely to act in a
manner dangerous to public safety.
(ii) An individual who has been convicted of an
offense under the act of April 14, 1972 (P.L.233, No.64),
known as The Controlled Substance, Drug, Device and
Cosmetic Act.
(iii) An individual convicted of a crime enumerated
in section 6105.
(iv) An individual who, within the past ten years,
has been adjudicated delinquent for a crime enumerated in
section 6105 or for an offense under The Controlled
Substance, Drug, Device and Cosmetic Act.
(v) An individual who is not of sound mind or who
has ever been committed to a mental institution.
(vi) An individual who is addicted to or is an
unlawful user of marijuana or a stimulant, depressant or
narcotic drug.
(vii) An individual who is a habitual drunkard.
(viii) An individual who is charged with or has been
convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a
term exceeding one year except as provided for in section
6123 (relating to waiver of disability or pardons).
(ix) A resident of another state who does not
possess a current license or permit or similar document
to carry a firearm issued by that state if a license is
provided for by the laws of that state, as published
annually in the Federal Register by the Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms of the Department of the
Treasury under 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(19) (relating to
definitions).
(x) An alien who is illegally in the United States.
(xi) An individual who has been discharged from the
armed forces of the United States under dishonorable
conditions.
(xii) An individual who is a fugitive from justice.
This subparagraph does not apply to an individual whose
fugitive status is based upon nonmoving or moving summary
offense under Title 75 (relating to vehicles).
(xiii) An individual who is otherwise prohibited
from possessing, using, manufacturing, controlling,
purchasing, selling or transferring a firearm as provided
by section 6105.
(xiv) An individual who is prohibited from
possessing or acquiring a firearm under the statutes of
the United States.

[pex]

(i) An individual whose character and reputation is
such that the individual would be likely to act in a
manner dangerous to public safety.

Found to be recklessly allowing your coat to open or firearm to be printing when you intend to carry concealed would cause your character and reputation such that you would likely be reckless in handling firearms, therefore you ought not be allowed to have a CCW.


Another thread: http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...e-any-way.html

[Pa. Patriot]

Originally Posted by pex

Found to be recklessly allowing your coat to open or firearm to be printing when you intend to carry concealed would cause your character and reputation such that you would likely be reckless in handling firearms, therefore you ought not be allowed to have a CCW.

That's not what the statute says.

"(i) An individual whose character and reputation is
such that the individual would be likely to act in a
manner dangerous to public safety."

Since there is no duty to conceal, the outline of your poorly concealed gun is neither "reckless" (your term) nor dangerous (the statutes term).

[TheBuckslayer]

Originally Posted by pex

Found to be recklessly allowing your coat to open or firearm to be printing when you intend to carry concealed would cause your character and reputation such that you would likely be reckless in handling firearms, therefore you ought not be allowed to have a CCW.


Another thread: http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...e-any-way.html

Open carry is legal in PA so IMO printing or someone seeing it "peaking" out from CC doesn't matter legally.

[rady8um]

Originally Posted by pex

Found to be recklessly allowing your coat to open or firearm to be printing when you intend to carry concealed would cause your character and reputation such that you would likely be reckless in handling firearms, therefore you ought not be allowed to have a CCW.


Another thread: http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...e-any-way.html

You are kidding, right?

[BerksCountyDave]

Originally Posted by pex

Found to be recklessly allowing your coat to open or firearm to be printing when you intend to carry concealed would cause your character and reputation such that you would likely be reckless in handling firearms, therefore you ought not be allowed to have a CCW.


Another thread: http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed...e-any-way.html

Not even close. This isn't Texas.

[Pa. Patriot]

Originally Posted by BerksCountyDave

This isn't Texas.

Good answer