just got off the phone with delco sheriffs office

[Pa. Patriot]

Originally Posted by rwilson452

I didn't mean to discourage anyone. I just don't want anyone to think it's a slam dunk solution.

I understand that. I think your post had an unintentional "defeatist" tone to it.

My point is that whether complaints make any headway or not we are obligated to try..

[rwilson452]

I concur. We got to keep plugging at it.

Originally Posted by Pa. Patriot

I understand that. I think your post had an unintentional "defeatist" tone to it.

My point is that whether complaints make any headway or not we are obligated to try..

[pyld]

Question: Is the delco DA as much of an asshat as the Sheriff?

Or, is he of a similarly stupid mind and likely to circular file (and deny) the complaint?

[delcosheriffsucks]

friday was day 45 of buisness days and today is day 66 of straight days

[Sparky45]

i saw this thread and just counted how many days it took to get mine this month, I put in the app on 12/3/07 and just got letter on 12/22/07 that i was approved and come pick it up

[phillychoppin]

Originally Posted by Sparky45

i saw this thread and just counted how many days it took to get mine this month, I put in the app on 12/3/07 and just got letter on 12/22/07 that i was approved and come pick it up

WOW... Are you connected or something?

I put my application in before Thanksgiving and still have not heard anything. Did they contact your employer?

[paulie6978]

im still waiting for mient o come in for philly... day 43 and counting.. my friend got his during the summer and took 3 months !

[PweShay]

Originally Posted by delcosheriffsucks

i can get it on tape, my cell has a record convo button but it wouldnt be illegal to use in court right? thats exactly what she said, the UAF does not apply to "this county"

You can record a convo, if in fact you are one of two parties talking. And it does hold up in the court of law. The part that most get confussed is that a 3rd party can not record w/out asking or letting the parties know. That is why the LE needs permission from a judge ( LE is a 3rd party) You do not need one for a person that is wired. I hope you all understand.

[GunLawyer001]

Originally Posted by PweShay

You can record a convo, if in fact you are one of two parties talking. And it does hold up in the court of law. The part that most get confussed is that a 3rd party can not record w/out asking or letting the parties know. That is why the LE needs permission from a judge ( LE is a 3rd party) You do not need one for a person that is wired. I hope you all understand.

This is dangerously incorrect information. PA is a 2-party consent jurisdiction, or more if there are more than 2 people conversing. EVERYONE who is a party to a phone conversation must consent to a recording.

Federal law only requires 1 party consent, but PA law is stricter. It's not just that a secret recording is inadmissible in court; you commit a prosecutable crime if you secretly record your own phone call with someone who is unaware of the recording.

[delcosheriffsucks]

well the letter came in the mail today, thanks everyone for your support, i will continue to open carry espically in downtown media just to piss off the sheriff