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Has anyone seen these? They seem well worth the money. No special batteries.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...09L&lpage=none
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What's your opinion watchmaker about Malkoff Devices for Maglites?
Malkoff is the best there is in LED's. I am familiar with the models for the Surefires, and I haven't tried the ones for Maglites, but I am sure they will be oustanding.

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Has anyone seen these? They seem well worth the money. No special batteries.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...09L&lpage=none

Normanvin,
Nine Nichias LED's will not throw far, this is mostly a flood light for inside a room, will not be good for outside work.

Another thing is the low capacity of the 3 AAA batteries, they don't last long.
For $25 you can buy in Wal Mart the Ray O Vac Sportsman Xtreme, that uses 2 AA batteries and have a 3 watt Luxeon.

Cabela's have the same light even cheaper, $20
Make sure you get the 3 watt not the 1 watt model.

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Nine Nichias LED's will not throw far, this is mostly a flood light for inside a room, will not be good for outside work.

Another thing is the low capacity of the 3 AAA batteries, they don't last long.
For $25 you can buy in Wal Mart the Ray O Vac Sportsman Xtreme, that uses 2 AA batteries and have a 3 watt Luxeon.

Cabela's have the same light even cheaper, $20
Make sure you get the 3 watt not the 1 watt model.

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I will check that out thanks..
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THE UTG BARREL MOUNT



Hi guys,
For those wanting a barrel mount for a flashlight or laser, I have had good
results with the UTG barrel mount.
Initially purchased for an AK rifle, I found out that it can be mounted in
other rifle barrels, for example, it fits perfectly in a .22 rifle and also in
a Mini 14 I have.

It is a tri-rail mount with three Picattiny rails that will also accept Weaver
style rings. My model is the #2 mount which have two slots; the UTG is also
available with five slots that will accommodate the red dots scopes that are
in the market.

Picture of the UTG # 2


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Another view






The UTG fully loaded with two TACM III tactical lights (one with a red filter)
and a laser.





The UTG is sold by Cheaper than Dirt and I imagine others places that cater to
tactical rifles. Just look in their catalogue in the AK accessories page.

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Wathcmaker, what do you recomend for a "tactical" light that runs on AA batteries?
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The Walmart here in Monaca, Beaver County is clearing out the Rayovac lights right now. The 3 watt is $13 and the 1 watt $9. Might be worth checking a Walmart near you for the same deal.

I like the light. Seems pretty good for the money. And it has a lifetime warranty.

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Mardo.
I agree with Mel in the Ray O vac Sportsman Xtreme 3 watts.
Otherwise check the Fenix line for their various lights running on AA.

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FLASHLIGHTS FOR SELF DEFENSE

As strange as it sounds, some flashlights are used for self defense quite often in daily life.
Sometimes by professionals Police Officers in a way to avoid using deadly force in confrontations with suspects, and other times by civilians that are not permitted to carry lethal weapons.

In the US we have it quite good in that we are allowed to carry short knives and some others implements but in the majority of Europe such activities are illegal or highly frowned upon by the authorities.

If you defend yourself with a baseball bat even in your own home in certain countries you have to give reason for why you have such an implement with you.

Other lights use others means of incorporating defense mechanisms in their construction. I am thinking now about the ARES Defense Companion, a Maglite with 3 cells that incorporates a shotgun of 410 gauge (only one picture is circulating in the Internet and I think is not in production) or the Tiger Light that incorporates a pepper spray canister, or the several models of Surefire that come with crenellated bezels (one example is the popular E2D executive Defender).

Surefire was the first (to my knowledge) at popularizing the crenellated bezel and the SureFire Institute offers a class in basic defensive tactics called “The power of Light” which is open to all qualified civilians as well as law enforcement professionals .
The course is taught by certified instructor Steve Tarani (shown below delivering a carotid strike).




The Borealis flashlight can be had with the optional heavy stainless steel crenellated bezel that is offered in a limited production run.
Such bezels add 3 ounces to the weight of the head and the bezel even that is not actually sharp will be a good imitation of the broken beer bottle.
I don’t think that an aggressor, if he is in his right mind, will confront such a weapon that first will blind him with 1050 lumens and then is ready to rearrange his facial features.





The Royal Borealis uses a Quick Detach Swivel, that when used only with the nub for the lanyard, can be very hard on skulls and noses.



This old Borealis model sports the heavy 3 inch head (the head is now out of production), more resembling a medieval mace. This is also a fantastic throw monster reaching over several hundred yards.



I have in my long association with the flashlight Industry seen a few models which spray OC from the front of the lens, flashlight that also incorporate a screaming siren, flashlights that incorporate a stun gun and others weird contraptions all of them gone from the market now.

What seems to prevail is just a good weight reliable flashlight that can be used as a baton or with the new crenellated bezels and the introduction of really powerful MEGA lights capable of blinding an assailant.

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I was recently linked to this thread in response to a question I had.

I would like the cheapest, (AA-AAA) light that I can attatch to the side rail on my AK. Something with the best throw I can get while still remaining small. I'd prefer projection over flood if possible. I read the entire thread, but I get confused as to what will mount to a weapon, and what will not. (Something you carry, as opposed to being bolted to a weapon.) I'm a light noob. I'd spend $100 on the light / mount if need be. I'm sure it could possibly come in handy at some point.

I guess you're the guy to ask.

I think your posts led me to the Fenix L1D. Will it take a weapon mount? What about the premium L1D-Q5? Its roughly $5X
Utilizes a Premium (Q5) Cree 7090 XR-E LED with a life of 50,000 hours
• Two modes (6 types) of output, generation/turbo selected by turning the bezel (patented)
• General Mode: 12 lumens (25hrs) -> 53 lumens (5hrs) -> 107 lumens (2hrs) -> SOS
• Turbo Mode: 120 lumens (1.5hrs) -> Strobe

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