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If you have a valid non-res license from Fla, you are good to go.

How about telling him to get his fellow deputies up to speed with the law. That is the major problem here, not whether you are carrying under a FLA license.

The sheriff probably doesn't know about this law either;

§6106. Firearms not to be carried without a license.

(a) Offense defined.—
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), any person who carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license under this chapter commits a felony of the third degree.
(2) A person who is otherwise eligible to possess a valid license under this chapter but carries a firearm in any vehicle or any person who carries a firearm concealed on or about his person, except in his place of abode or fixed place of business, without a valid and lawfully issued license and has not committed any other criminal violation commits a misdemeanor of the first degree.
(b) Exceptions.—The provisions of subsection (a) shall not apply to:
(12) A person who has a lawfully issued license to carry a firearm pursuant to section 6109 (relating to licenses) and that said license expired within six months prior to the date of arrest and that the individual is otherwise eligible for renewal of the license.
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This is copied from the PA Attorney General's web page.

RECIPROCITY AGREEMENT

This Reciprocity Agreement by and between the State of Florida by and through the Florida Department of State, Division of Licensing, and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania by and through the Office of Attorney General.

WHEREAS, the purpose of this Reciprocity Agreement is to extend reciprocal concealed firearm carry permit/license privileges to the citizens of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and the State of Florida,

WHEREAS, the respective state offices are authorized by statute to enter into this Reciprocity Agreement,

WHEREAS, in consideration of the matters described herein, and of the mutual benefits and obligations set forth in this Reciprocity Agreement, the Parties hereby agree and covenant as follows:

The State of Florida will recognize valid Pennsylvania permits to carry concealed firearms by valid Pennsylvania permit holders while said permit holders are present in the State of Florida.


The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania will recognize valid Florida licenses to carry concealed firearms by valid Florida permit holders while said permit holders are present in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.



This Reciprocity Agreement applies only to the carrying of firearms as defined and authorized by the applicable statutes of Pennsylvania by valid license/permit holders from the respective states and not to any other types of weapons.


The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and the State of Florida will inform each other of any changes in their respective carrying of concealed weapons statutes that may affect the eligibility of the recognition granted by each state.


The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and the State of Florida will each provide the other with copies of their current laws regarding concealed weapons and firearm carry licenses/permits.


The State of Florida will provide twenty-four hour verification of the authenticity and status of Florida licenses. Instructions regarding the method of verification of a Florida concealed handgun permit/license will be provided as soon as the method is established.


This Reciprocity Agreement is contingent upon and shall only remain effective as long as the respective statutory authority in each state authorizing the reciprocal privileges remains effective.


This Reciprocity Agreement shall become effective upon the execution of the authorized Parties' signatures.


This Agreement may be terminated by either Party or their successor upon thirty (30) days written notice.
WITNESSETH, each Party to this Reciprocity Agreement has caused it to be executed on the date indicated below.
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Chris, the copy of the application for LTCF I printed from the Cumberland County Sheriff's web page appears to be a generic Commonwealth of PA form because, at the top of the form is just "County of _____________". I actually have to renew mine as I let it lapse because I found I was not carrying. I want to start carrying again, so it's time to renew. In the past, I checked Self Defense and Target Shooting on mine and never had a problem. I'm planning on taking the day off tomorrow and take a trip to the courthouse to start the process.

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Thanks steve in PA. I also asked if there was some kind of grace period and the guy said no. These LEO need to to take a law class. Thanks for your help and knowledge. When this guy said this to me I siad I am going to make a post and Steve in PA will Know. Thanks again for all your help.
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It does not matter what box you check, a LTC is good for ALL reasons. Anyone that tells you different doesn't know their %#$ from a hole in the ground.

PACS §6109. Licenses.

(a) Purpose of license.—A license to carry a firearm shall be for the purpose of carrying a firearm concealed on or about one’s person or in a vehicle throughout this Commonwealth.


That is the purpose behind the license, no matter what reason you select.

it does matter for a couple reasons......if you have a licence for self defence and you happen to carry your hand gun while hunting, youll get into trouble...also if you have your licence for hunting, and carry it on the streets of reading, youll get into trouble.......and i do know my a$$ from a hole in the ground.......i put self defence for mine and it was 14 days after i turned my application in i got my letter to go and get my licence...
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Sorry, you are 100% wrong. A LTC is good for the purpose I stated above. It does not matter what is printed on your card, self-defense, target, etc. You know absolutely zero about the gun carry laws, and your response above proves it.

Exactly what will they charge you with in Reading for carrying with your LTC that says "hunting"? What law is being broken? I'll tell you what, none. Same as hunting and you have self-defense selected, what crime have you broken?? Please, in your infinite wisdom shed some light on us poor mis-informed fools.

I say again, the purpose of a LTC is to carry a concealed firearm on your person or in your vehicle. Period.

For your information I am a police officer in PA, I am also a firearms instructor and I know the gun laws inside and out. You my friend do not. Stick to something else besides gun laws, please. Leave it to those that know what they are talking about instead of spreading false information.

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steve in pa is definitely not the guy to argue with regarding PA gun laws...he knows them inside and out.

once again, steve, thanks for being an invaluable resource to us web-surfin' gun-ownin' fellow pennsylvanians.
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steve in pa is definitely not the guy to argue with regarding PA gun laws...he knows them inside and out.

once again, steve, thanks for being an invaluable resource to us web-surfin' gun-ownin' fellow pennsylvanians.
I agree. I remember Steve from Glocktalk and he has helped answer a few questions of mine. He knows his stuff.
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Well thanks. If I ever run for Govenor I'll be looking for your votes!!
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Steve I especially posted here cause I knew you would know the law. You should know that your advice is very appreciated. I would ask this: can you direct us to the places to look to find these laws? In NY they not only had penal law but also conservation laws as well. They might have had other places for law so it was very confusing. Where exactly are all the guns laws in PA. Can you post a link. Thanks
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