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Default About PA&ME reciprocity

I got a call returned from the Maine AG's office. I had called to ask if we would be having reciprocal privileges.

The fellow said he was holding a return letter from PA, and it detailed PA not joining. Well, Maine he told me, wants equal to superior requirements, so PA must have sent a courtesy reply, knowing we don't satisfy the requirements, due to not having a training requirement, as Maine demands.

Boo-hoo, I sent one NRA training certificate many moons ago, when I first applied for the ME permit, and $60.00 every four years, to support the economy . Well, not as painful as the Mass. annual torture for $100.00?
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It's funny; I mentioned the same thing to my wife the other day while we were there. I told her about how the legislature in Maine mandated that the AG extend reciprocity to other states. I also mentioned PA probably would not be one of the states due to the fact all we have to do is fill out one piece of paper for our CCL. When I applied for my Maine non-resident I had to fill out somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 pages of paper work, this included a background check and 2 authority to release info forms. In addition I had to send in a copy of a certificate that I passed an NRA gun safety class, send in pictures, my left arm and first born…. You get the point.

When Maine extends reciprocal agreements, PA will be on the end of the list.
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I got a call returned from the Maine AG's office. I had called to ask if we would be having reciprocal privileges.

The fellow said he was holding a return letter from PA, and it detailed PA not joining. Well, Maine he told me, wants equal to superior requirements, so PA must have sent a courtesy reply, knowing we don't satisfy the requirements, due to not having a training requirement, as Maine demands.

Boo-hoo, I sent one NRA training certificate many moons ago, when I first applied for the ME permit, and $60.00 every four years, to support the economy . Well, not as painful as the Mass. annual torture for $100.00?
WV also has a training requirement for its residents to get a carry permit and we have reciprocity with them
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WV also has a training requirement for its residents to get a carry permit and we have reciprocity with them
That is WV, and now authority resides in their AG to determine if we meet such requirements. ...Maine is a whole other state. FL, NC, VA, and a great many other states that we signed with require training too - just that they overlooked their own laws just to get it approved.

Technically, the PA and WV could be voided if challenged. However it is unlikely.. Enough of WV's legislators and citizens wants PA's agreement. Gov Manchin was too lazy to sign an agreement prior to the new WV law even though the terms are still the same.
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It's funny; I mentioned the same thing to my wife the other day while we were there. I told her about how the legislature in Maine mandated that the AG extend reciprocity to other states. I also mentioned PA probably would not be one of the states due to the fact all we have to do is fill out one piece of paper for our CCL. When I applied for my Maine non-resident I had to fill out somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 pages of paper work, this included a background check and 2 authority to release info forms. In addition I had to send in a copy of a certificate that I passed an NRA gun safety class, send in pictures, my left arm and first born…. You get the point.

When Maine extends reciprocal agreements, PA will be on the end of the list.
Maine's requirements are really not that big of a deal, the training requirement and photograph being my greatest concerns. Something like 7 out of 10 pages is just Y/N questions about violating Maine or several states law (waste of paper...)

Unfortunately, I thought Maine was really eyeing us and had come to the conclusion they would offer us reciprocity. I thought it would be US who denied it. That really sucks.
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Ah Ha, this morning I spoke to the secretary of the person in Maine who handles their states reciprocity. (Her boss is on vacation)

She told me they want all the states they can get, but so far only three sent back a positive response. Seems they all send out 50 invites when they establish reciprocity. Sort of throw it on the wall, and see what sticks.


Anyway, this woman is directly involved, and said the Legislature is amenable to adjusting the law if it suites Maine's purpose. She said to stand by, other things are possible, and PA could still reciprocate.

Just between you and me, I want to know for what reason PA declined? If anything other than no training in the law, they are going to get an earful. It really makes you wonder about who is driving the train in the PA AG's office. Don't bother calling Dep. AG George Sizer, nice man, but he does not handle the reciprocity agreements, and will not say who does?
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I would think any state which meets PA's lowest requirements would be good enough for PA, because ME's licensed would all be better suited than PA residents with the same. It would be disgusting if PA said 'well we're not up to THEIR standards so we'll just say no.'

Is this some strict full faith and credit bollocks? Is the idea ME won't allow what PA would believe a complete set of people to be licensed that it is an abridgment of their rights and thus we won't stand for it by supporting their reciprocity?

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