What exactly is the LTCF?

[exceltoexcel]

You don't need that or at least I didn't.

I didn't need anything other than my drivers licence...

Just go with your licence and maybe a social securioty card/birth certificate just for backup.

i didn't need bills or a paystub or anything other than my licence to drive. I went to the norristown court house to get mine.

[CZ40P]

Originally Posted by BlownNitroPontiac

I just renewed mine and I didn't need anything besides my photos, references and fee. It's more than $16 now.

Utility bills?

Tax forms?

Nah, sound like something the Socialist Peoples Republic of New Jersey would require.

Not here.

What do utility bills and tax forms have to do with one's fitness to qualify for an LTCF?

This is just another example of a local sheriff adding more requirements to the process. It is a striking example of why the whole system needs a tune-up.
One process for the whole state, no local hoops to jump through, and remove the stupid clause that allows sheriffs "digression".

All counties should be the same as Lackawanna County.

(Wow I never thought I would write something positive about Lackawonderland)

[Buckmark.35]

Originally Posted by CZ40P

One process for the whole state, no local hoops to jump through, and remove the stupid clause that allows sheriffs "digression".

ROFL. Not really on topic, but I think you mean discretion. Whether or not Sherrifs ramble on an off topic tangent is fine with me. However they shouldn't be able to say no, just because the Sheriff doesn't like the way someone looks.

[jcabin]

It's really a rediculous request, i think its because of all the ppl moving to the area from the tri-state area so they dont get away with getting LTCF in pa while not living here. Its something stupid full time residents need to do.

[headcase]

OK, maybe I wasn't clear. If you live in Monroe county, you need to bring the things I listed. If your township doesn't use berkhiemer, you still need your tax form, or a letter from who ever your tax collector is. I was not being ambiguous, those are the requirements whether you just moved here or if you were born and lived your whole life on the courthouse steps. I was there less than a week ago and these are the requirements now. Calling and asking them to waive anything is sooo not going to help your case. The tax form or letter is to prove you are on the tax rolls for the county. If berkhiemer is your tax collector, just call them and they will send you a letter right away with no hassle. If you downloaded the form from the website, it has not been updated yet. I know this for a fact. If you are not comfortable trusting me, just walk on in to the sheriffs office and find out on your own. I don't like the new requirements either but they are what they are. If you want a LTCF, and you live in Monroe, you will bring what they say to bring, trust me.
Oh BTW, the fee is $31.00, but you need to bring $16.00 with you at drop off. You pay the rest when you pick it up.

[TJB63]

Originally Posted by Gary in Pennsylvania

Holy Cow! In Lackawanna county...I was in and out in less than 15mins! They never called my references and didn't ask me for anything more than my driver's license (IIRC).
The Sherriff wasn't very talkative despite my attempt to make small talk - But I was still in and out right quick!

Ditto in York. Pretty much had the exact same process.

TJB

[headcase]

Originally Posted by Gary in Pennsylvania

Holy Cow! In Lackawanna county...I was in and out in less than 15mins! They never called my references and didn't ask me for anything more than my driver's license (IIRC).
The Sherriff wasn't very talkative despite my attempt to make small talk - But I was still in and out right quick!

Sucks to be us. They didn't call my refs either, they sent them a questionaire and I had to wait an extra week because one forgot to mail it back... We wait an avg. of 40 days to get the notice to come get it. Monroe doesn't care what the state says, trust me on that.

[imperialism2024]

Originally Posted by Buckmark.35

No the sportsmen's permit has nothing to do with protection. It's for being able to carry a handgun for sporting purposes. From the PSP website:

The issuances of a Sportsman’s Firearm Permit allows the individual to carry a firearm if such persons are actually hunting, taking furbearers, fishing or training dogs, or are going to the places where they desire to hunt, take furbearers, fish, or train dogs during the regular training season, or returning from such places. A Sportsman's Firearm Permit is NOT a License to Carry a firearm concealed.

You can, however, carry a handgun for self-protection while hunting, but you must have a LCTF to carry it.

But, then what is the purpose of §6106 Exception #9: "Persons licensed to hunt, take furbearers or fish in this Commonwealth, if such persons are actually hunting, taking furbearers or fishing or are going to the places where they desire to hunt, take furbearers or fish or returning from such places." Isn't it redundant to get a Sportsman's Firearm Permit as it seems to me that no license is necessary to carry during those circumstances anyway?

[BlownNitroPontiac]

Originally Posted by jcabin

I was just discussing it with my mother and she said she's sure that the 1% tax was taken out for me, i guess its a pretty common thing for most local places of business to do for their employees. She also thinks its rediculous i need to prove my residency by this 1% tax, i've lived here since i was 5, did my entire education (unfortunately haha) at a monroe country school district, and now attend a pa college. ill give the sherrifs office and berkheimers a call.

You're not majoring in English Composition, are you?

[Buckmark.35]

Originally Posted by imperialism2024

But, then what is the purpose of §6106 Exception #9: "Persons licensed to hunt, take furbearers or fish in this Commonwealth, if such persons are actually hunting, taking furbearers or fishing or are going to the places where they desire to hunt, take furbearers or fish or returning from such places." Isn't it redundant to get a Sportsman's Firearm Permit as it seems to me that no license is necessary to carry during those circumstances anyway?

Also from the PSP website:

9) Persons licensed to hunt, take furbearers or fish in this Commonwealth, if such persons are actually hunting, taking furbearers or fishing or are going to the places where they desire to hunt, take furbearers or fish or returning from such places.
10) Persons training dogs, if such persons are actually training dogs during the regular training season.

(Note that before an exception would be granted under numbers 9 and 10, the person must obtain a valid Sportsman’s Firearm Permit from the county treasurer.)